Real World NR
Last edited by Tanlic; 29th June 2022 at 2:06 PM.
Formely Fist of Fury
Older horses do have a better recent record than the 3year olds
However giving Vadeni 10lbs look a huge ask of Bay Bridge who could be 5lbs short of being a real Group 1 horse.
I thought if he was going to make the grade he would have beaten State of Rest with ease
but that final kick top class horses have just wasn't there and in the end I thought he was a bitterly disappointing odds on shot.
Formely Fist of Fury
It was a nothing pace in the POW, given the field, there's no danger of that on Saturday
I hear this everyday.if there had been a stronger pace horse B would have won .....do you know how few times it works out in reality.
Top class horses win off any pace simply because of one factor:- They are top class
Last edited by Tanlic; 30th June 2022 at 3:35 PM.
Formely Fist of Fury
With respect - you're talking bullshit.
With respect you hope I am as you are in the SMS camp I presume?
His win at Sandown was impressive of a normal pace for a group race
The opposition for a couple of reasons wasn't great and last time in a tougher race got his ass felt.
Moore gave him a perfectly good ride he simply wasn't good enoughand this is a huge step up from that.
I think he's aplace lay personally.
Formely Fist of Fury
Bay Bridge is still very backable at 4/1.
Six runners; all have some chance .
Where does the pace come from ?
A lot of these race keenly without leading so anything can happen.
May get a Bosra Sham type situation if false rail not present in straight.
edgt (30th June 2022)
Is it possible BB was using the POW as a prep?
Simon Rowlands, in his sectional analysis of its previous win, was gushing about its splits (which were off a slow pace) yet off another slowish pace in the POW he was outsprinted.
So was he prepping? Not over his previous run? Flattered by his previous run?
So hard to know.
Illegitimi non carborundum
Hopefully a decent pace and a fair race.
Henry Cecil never liked this race for 3 year olds, he reckoned they were not yet ready to take on older horses over a stiff 10 furlongs.
Given his 2 best three year olds ( Wollow, Reference Point ) were beaten you can see why.
Should Native Trail or Vadeni win they will be proven top drawer 3 year olds.
Last edited by edgt; 1st July 2022 at 9:23 AM.
Colin (1st July 2022), Desert Orchid (1st July 2022)
Taken the 4/1 Bay Bridge, and will happily go in at higher if more take his POW form literally.
They were unsure how he'd cope with faster ground then, and he wasn't given a hard race because of it. They know better now, and he'll be ridden more positively because of it.
Interestingly, AOB swerves the race, probably on RM's counsel. Be warned.
Slim (1st July 2022)
Excuse me while I fall off my chair laughing
The horse was going for 5 on the trot, his first crack at a group 1 and was off for his life in a race worth £599,708.25 to the winner.
Prepping? You lot need to stop looking for excuses the horse was beaten, wasn't good enough, lacked the finishing kick just one negative after the other
Last edited by Tanlic; 1st July 2022 at 5:44 AM.
Formely Fist of Fury
To those of you who are planning to or have opposed Vadeni especially you Bay Brudge supporters
I am doing you a favour and giving you some free advice:-
For Burned Fingers+Apply petroleum jelly two to three times daily.
Do not apply ointments, toothpaste or butter to the burn, as these may cause an infection.
Formely Fist of Fury
Outsider (1st July 2022)