My early arrows are Kalondra and El Bandit.
"Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".
SlimChance, March 2018
Yeh, like Kalondra also
Are we talking BetVictor or Hennessy now
Illegitimi non carborundum
we should start a thread for the Henn...sorry Ladbrokes Trophy!
"The wise man is one who knows what he does not know"
Yeah Ladbrokes and others have won enough off those FOBT machines to sponsor many races for a very long time! What year did they actually start putting those things in high street shops? The year they declared psychological warfare on poor people seeking to be less poor!
Last edited by Marb; 1st November 2018 at 9:15 PM.
What odds they start buying up Islands far far away, with their profits, name them 'Ladbrokes Island', then turn them into new Nevada's.
Last edited by Marb; 1st November 2018 at 9:17 PM.
I'm wondering if I'm pished.
Illegitimi non carborundum
Fixed odds machines with a built in mathmatical edge, alledgedly throwing 'random' numbers. This was a recipe for printing money by the truck load. This very concept is like playing the lottery, then watching Jimmy Saviile fiddle the Lottery machine beforehand by adding another 30 new numbers to the 49 already in there. No wonder the profits have been so immense for bookmakers...
Last edited by Marb; 1st November 2018 at 9:28 PM.
Cracking down on them the best thing the Tory government have done in office for sure.
Last edited by Marb; 1st November 2018 at 9:19 PM.
Sorries, rant over.
Outsider (1st November 2018)
Indeed, DO......I was talking cobblers.......my arrows for BVGC are Kalondra and Casablanca Mix.
El Bandit is my early Hennessy arrow, along with Step Back.
"Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".
SlimChance, March 2018
Desert Orchid (1st November 2018)
For the Hennessy my first route would involve second-season chasers with Grade 1 potential and although last year's inaugural running under the new sponsorship and, if memory serves, significantly enhanced money, followed the pattern, I wouldn't be at all surprised if certain operations decided before last year's race that it would be worth spending a year getting the handicap mark of a Grade 1 horse down a fair bit.
Still, there's plenty of water to flow under the bridge before it comes to that.
Illegitimi non carborundum
Ratings for qualification for the Betvictor Gold Cup published this Tuesday (6th Nov) and the weights published a week later (Tues 13th)
Grasshopper (4th November 2018)
How did we leave it go off 3/1. Sometimes as punters we think too much. Why worry about the Hennessey when he's 3/1 in a boat race.
The weights, didn't think they were out this early but here they are
https://myemail.constantcontact.com/...id=ykz_1MqR9q8
Last edited by Diamond Geezer; 7th November 2018 at 1:16 PM.
Mister Whitaker my strongest fancy. He is a worthy favourite. I hope he runs well. At a much bigger price, I am considering the Skelton horse Cobra De Mai. His strike rate over fences is 5/11 which is good. He came right back to his best form last time out. He is still only six years of age, so could find a lot of improvement carrying a nice low weight. I will hold fire until final declarations on Thursday, but I am tempted by the 33/1.
Last edited by Marb; 12th November 2018 at 10:50 AM.
Rather Be is weighted to reverse Close Bros form quite comfortably.
I like him, Kalondra and Western Approach who I thought ran a cracker fto considering how keen he was for most of the race. This step down in trip will suit.
Last edited by Euronymous; 12th November 2018 at 12:30 PM.