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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxbet View Post
    How can you look fully exposed when you are going 2 & 4 furlongs further than you have ever been before, 2 & 4 furlongs that should be more compatible with what you are bred for?
    I certainly don't see Tuesday having what it takes nor am I convinced she will stay the trip in this company. She could pinch 2nd if she does stay and Nahwa doesn't but no way does she have the class or the toe to beat the fav. IMO

    Looks like a professional one paced loser to me. The rest look veryordinary and I can see nothing that would suggest they are Group 1 horses.
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    Tuesday is bred to do nothing but stay.

    The track looks a bag of shite. That's s worry for any horse coming from off the pace.

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    Anyone else think it's very odd that Tuesday was born 'so late' in the year? They must have known what they were doing obviously but that really is a huge risk when hoping to run at 2 and even 3 with such a well bred horse, and could have been at a big disadvantage if had been a colt. I know my May foal against January/February ones was noticeably smaller even thought I thought he was good size. ( May only because first time was twins and both pinched obviously by mistake )

    Would really love Hollie to win this as good as Emily Upjohn could be.
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    Emily is a lovely looking filly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Tuesday is bred to do nothing but stay.

    The track looks a bag of shite. That's s worry for any horse coming from off the pace.
    I teke my hat off to you........Coming off the pace aftera awful start granted but I also thought what on earth did Frankie come so wide for?
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    Last edited by Tanlic; 3rd June 2022 at 4:43 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G-G View Post
    Anyone else think it's very odd that Tuesday was born 'so late' in the year? They must have known what they were doing obviously but that really is a huge risk when hoping to run at 2 and even 3 with such a well bred horse, and could have been at a big disadvantage if had been a colt. I know my May foal against January/February ones was noticeably smaller even thought I thought he was good size. ( May only because first time was twins and both pinched obviously by mistake )

    Would really love Hollie to win this as good as Emily Upjohn could be.
    Clearly didn’t stop her being a late foal. Such a chilled filly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jinnyj View Post
    Emily is a lovely looking filly
    I hope backers of Tuesday will forgive me but I was willing Emily home all through the latter stages. It would have been a sensational win after that start.

    It remains to be seen what the form will amount to but with this being Tuesday's second birthday, you have to think that by Arc time she will be a bit of a monster.
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    Emily is a monster. Prefer the King George - wouldn't fancy her on soft Paris ground.

    Tuesday no chance in an Arc. She's been too busy and he won't give her a break
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    Quote Originally Posted by jinnyj View Post
    Clearly didn’t stop her being a late foal. Such a chilled filly.
    Clearly not, but must be a record in itself.

    Nashwa looked as if she was struggling for her balance- Hollie says outstayed but Nashwa didn't look fluent really compared to the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    Emily is a monster. Prefer the King George - wouldn't fancy her on soft Paris ground.

    Tuesday no chance in an Arc. She's been too busy and he won't give her a break
    Unless she has a break now.

    Emily has to go for the King George if all okay.
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    Just watched it again and Ryan rode Frankie to sleep. He went for home and grabbed about 3 or 4 lengths while Frankie was waiting for what?
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    Interesting to see what price Tuesday will be if they meet again.

    As feared with Nashwa, didn't get it. Bit keen aswell. Drop back.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

    This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.

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    5/6 Frankie rides her next time 13/8 he doesn't!

    No only joking nothing he could do about the start anyway I would need to watch it again to judge the rest of the ride I was too busy cheering Tuesday.

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    Mmm, not sure I quite approve of Aidan’s tactics in walking his horses to the start and arriving there three or four minutes after the start time. Presumably to unsettle the others - worked, though, Emily blew the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barjon View Post
    Mmm, not sure I quite approve of Aidan’s tactics in walking his horses to the start and arriving there three or four minutes after the start time. Presumably to unsettle the others - worked, though, Emily blew the start.
    Not sure that's the reason she stumbled!
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

    This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.

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    OK, time to put my head above the parapet. This is from the missive I put out to family and friends this evening:

    Draw Horse Jockey OR MON Notes
    12 Desert Crown R Kingscote 117 118 +p
    4 Stone Age R Moore 115 118 ? p
    5 Nations Pride W Buick 116 118 +p
    7 Piz Badile F Dettori 110 113 p
    1 Royal Patronage Jason Hart 112 112
    6 Nahanni A Kirby 99 111 ?
    15 Star Of India S Heffernan 109 110 p
    9 Walk Of Stars J Doyle 107 110 p
    2 Westover R Hornby 109 109 p
    16 Changingoftheguard W Lordan 110 108 p
    10 Glory Daze R Whelan 105 108 p
    8 Masekela J Watson 107 107
    11 West Wind Blows J Mitchell 101 106 p
    3 Hoo Ya Mal D Probert 105 105
    13 Sonny Liston T Marquand 104 105 p
    17 Grand Alliance D Tudhope 98 98
    14 El Habeeb J F Egan - ?

    I took 14/1 Nations Pride as my biggest bet in the race before there was any talk of supplementing it so I’m happy that they shelled out to get him in. If he does win it will soften the blows of having a few speculative ante-post punts not turn up. I also went in again at 10/1 (plus a boost) when they started mooting the possibility. Nahanni’s OR and RPR are low but his form was stacking up well in lesser races before Mighty Ulysses gave a it a big boost – not taken into account above because it won a small race in between – and I’m tempted by 25/1. I’m seriously tempted to have enough on Desert Crown to cover all my bets. I think if there is a superstar waiting to happen it will be either him or Nations Pride, maybe even both will prove above average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barjon View Post
    Mmm, not sure I quite approve of Aidan’s tactics in walking his horses to the start and arriving there three or four minutes after the start time. Presumably to unsettle the others - worked, though, Emily blew the start.

    Yeah -Aidan is such a bad *******.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    Just watched it again and Ryan rode Frankie to sleep. He went for home and grabbed about 3 or 4 lengths while Frankie was waiting for what?
    Say it softly but, for all his theatrics, I reckon he's over the hill.
    Apalling judgement of pace got Pyledriver beat today, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    Just watched it again and Ryan rode Frankie to sleep. He went for home and grabbed about 3 or 4 lengths while Frankie was waiting for what?
    Say it softly but, for all his theatrics, I reckon he's over the hill.
    Apalling judgement of pace got Pyledriver beat today, imo.

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