Good luck with those Gigs. El Erayg is outsider of the lot atm.
Very sweet on Kings Pavillon myself.
Good luck with those Gigs. El Erayg is outsider of the lot atm.
Very sweet on Kings Pavillon myself.
Luckily did combos in shops csf£69 Exacta £69 and trifecta £320 tricast £216!!!
Wolves 3.45
Gunmaker 16/1 365/ppowrr/sportsbook/skybet/betway/totesport/betfred/lads/hills/corals
Kodiline is the obvious pick,won off 77 in january now off lowest ever mark been out of form in recent times but last time out ran ok at beverley
in a 0-70 first ever 0-65 tomorrow so obvious chance over a track its won on..At a bigger price gunmaker might be worth following for awhile very rarely wins just 1/27 on aw 1/12 with five places,joined ruth carrr from gavin cromwell at the end of march ad forst three runs was 3/3/2 off marks of 68/67/67 all in 0-75s going off favourite twice those races were better than tomorrows,has shown nothing on the turf since those runs and dropped to lifetime low mark of 59...Obviously not reliable but would be a decent ew bet in this race if cpuldd run anywhere near that form,at these prices you'd expect it to be heabvily backed in this grade so sure that will tell the story..
Last edited by gigilo; 22nd July 2019 at 6:32 PM.
Would still have gunmaker on to follows,massive pace bias and horse was puing its head off so much kickback there today no chance of coming off the pace...street poet another winner pace holding up and fits in with tomorrows runners..
Arlechinnos leap hasn't been running too badly in recent races contesting class 5s,looked to be travelling well when got no run on the 10th of may behind nezar finishing fourth over c/d but was travelling well stuck in behind field from the 2f pole and not getting out till the furlong pole when race had gone beaten 3 1/2ls..
Ran ok next time out at kempton in a 0-70 last time out at the end of may although only 5th of 9,tomorrow drops into a class 6 although for this class of race is ultra competitve i have four or five others marked off, too competitve to back more than one,last season won off marks of 63,66 and 72 back to back and tomorrow off 63 not a horse i've backed with much success in the past from memory.It's back in a class 6 first time since last winning and if street poet and a couple of others go a decent pace has a decent ew chance especially on the unlucky penultimate run..Trainers on poor run nearly all of his horses have finished last recently no winners last 48 runners and shane gray has never rode the horse but probably worth following for a while now back in 0-65s and will be easier races than this in future..
Last times write up.
Lingfield 2.20
Arlecchinos Leap 15/2 hills 8/1 365/skybet..
Same as last tie dropped into a 0-65,last time out stopped in running again when seemed to be travelling well got dropped a ound a claimer takrs off another 7 pound so very well handicapped,quite a few negatives the jock ellie mackenzie has rode winners but this is difficult ride.The horse has little form at lingfield and if the go no pace then similar thing could happen again,although at least the trainer had a winner at newbury recently they go quick enough then decent ew chace at least..
Last edited by gigilo; 23rd July 2019 at 5:08 PM.
[B]14/1 ppower/sportsbook//[/B
What a putrid drift that was backed al last night and this motrning and in 15 mins goes from 7/1 out to 13s on betfair,yet another one for the notebook,ran wide jock useless probably nor a lingfield horse,can't wi wiyh jocs like that on useless..
Last edited by gigilo; 24th July 2019 at 2:25 PM.
[QUOTE=gigilo;724584]July stakes
Visnari 9/4 365/sportsbook/ppower 2/1 generally Boosala 12/1 corals/365 11/1 lads/betfred/totesport
Not the 20/1 books priced up for coventry which looking back was a complete gutter but was unlikely to run as i mentioned previously,although everyone has been highlighting the run and time after i put it on here and now betting at 9/4 for a group 2 on only second run..Made debut on june 6th won by an eased 3 1/2ls and the winning time was .14 faster than flavius titus winning older handicap off 95 if taken at face value you're looking at a 120 performance for an easy debut win,probably one of the fastest debut runs ever..It would be great to see the horse just run to debut run to confirm the promise,any improvemet then you'd have something very special especially as bred for further,a lot of these speedfigure horses do get beat on second runs but hopefully this one won't..Form has been franked as well 3rd and 4th 8th horses beaten out of sight over 13ls have got touched off on next runs and the 5th has won ...Will probably get smashed off the boards even at these prices with all the hype so could still be good for trading etc..
Guildsman is the obvious danger after third in the coventry especially if visnari doesn't turn up and one i like at a bigger pruce Boosala looked quite impressive on debut running .82 slower than the 0-95 older handicap on debut over 6fs at windsor seems ridiculously insignificant compared to visnari but not compared to most debut runs.Beat raahy by 1 1/2ls that one has sluiced up since after being 3rd at donny on debut just behind kuwait direction beaten 4 1/2ls in the coventry,but kuwait direction had previous experience..Taking at face value that formline boosala could be superior to that 4ls kuwait direction finished behind guildsman,whatever happens looks one to follow and could well be another group horse..
Vintage stakes july 30th
Visnari 9/2 365/betfred/hills/totesport
Visnari was disappointing last time out and for me the times pointed to it running well below form,actually ran slower on the day than it did i debut on faster ground whixh shiuldv'e been quicker anyway with improvement...I looked back at the three years previous of the july stakes and all the runnings were almost identical to the 3yr old big field handicap on the card,this renewal of the july stakes was a second slower suggesting the form to be a weak race at least on the clock even though everyone's gong on about ratings etc worked out and visnari improved..On the times it makes no sense and that comparison with the 3yr old handicap really does tell the story,i've gone vback through visinaris debut card and just comparitive times of other races that day,no way it couldv'e run anywhere near that debut.
Problem as i mentioned above you have these horses that produce one lifetime run then they just never produce it again,can't give up on it yet but if it runs to that last bit of form i don't think it will even be placed the time was very slow compared to pinatubos win at ascot and mystery powers recent win..Pinatubo may well still be the best horse in the race anyway currently 3/1 corals possibly go off very short 6-4 free bet,was only 5 1/2ls slower than the jersey at ascot and won easily so wouldn't put anyone off that one,visnaris only 9/2 that's not a good price on the last run but if can reproduce its debut run then it is a far better horse..it will either run pinatubo really close if coming back to form or if to last run it will be unplaced..Looks a really interesting race and will be big moves for the guineas whoever wins,would like visinari to show it can do it again even if it came second as want to see something a bit special..
Last edited by gigilo; 25th July 2019 at 4:04 PM.
Outsider (25th July 2019)
Ground looks unreliable everywhere will try some ew multiples but will be small stakes as a lot of these meetings are firecast thunderstorms so you could be running on anything,all shortish prices as well so not dat for getting rich.
Thirsk 2.10
Galadriel 13/8 365/skybet
Fourth in listed race on deut at york and went off 10/1 at ascot in the Albany well beaten and now up another furlong so bit to prove although the york form looked like further would suit and could yet be better than a handicapper i'dd be surprised if not a 90+ horse looking at debut run at least..
York 6.0
Chance 7/2 hills Moftaris 9/2 hills
Chance 3yr old five lifetime runs won at notts in a 0-85 was only a five horse race so hard to know the value of the form althugh wion easily,the second had won previous two races and looks as though is improving,ground looked on slower side don't know what goig will be at york currently looks goodish so looks like willbe ok.was 0-85 last time out 0-80 tomorrow and megan nicholls takes off 3 in lady amateurs race
.The other one moftaris ran on quicker ground at windsor was third in maiden so handicap debut tomorrow,runs off 75 georgia ccox takes off three time was interesting at windsor ran 1.6 seconds quicker tha that handicap won by a 70 rated 3yr old so strictly on tmes that maiden may be better than first appeared.
Newmarket 6.10
Laikaparty 15/8 ppower/sportsbook
Smelly drift on this 3/1 be ok as long ss it hits places
Not sure how good the lingfield maiden was it finished 2nd in on debut 4ls back to audio third that finished 10/26 in supersprint rate 72 the tie looked ok there but was genuine quick ground don't know what tomorrows will be..It's probably a 90 horse so decent standard,although other runners are hard to wiegh uo some good stables iin here,thought it was worh putting in as could add up in thieving places with others.
Chepstow 5.45
Dashing poet 9/1 betfred/totesport 365 12/1 ppower/sportsbook
Going stick at chepsrtow says 5.6 if thats right the that suggest soft griund,don;t think will know till later tomorrow after hot weather so again its
guesswork really on ground,misu pete hacked up and wo by 6ls in a 0-75 six days ago,gets ti run off same mark of 56 has poor jock on but is one that races prominent if grounds still goodish or softer looks the one to beat..Would be a bit surprised if dashing poet ones there shuuld be at least one or two to beat it,horses is stuck in the mid 60s running off 65,when first saw the race the 16 draw caight my eye i was hoping the ground might dry out and the stands side might be an advantage as horse races prominent and goes on most grounds..Has a win and a second here
in may to sir roderic this race looks bettr plus all the high draws are where all the best horses appear to be,has an ew chance especially if stands side looks advantage you won't know as first race on card unfortunately..Could be good for in running as almost always leads at some point,so in running lay there as well...Misu pete non runner,other highdrws amor fati and glorious jem look the dangers from high draws,maybe sime forects and mister musicmaster from high draw as well nearly ever season pops up when least expected..
Chepstow 8.15
General brook 18/1 hils sportsbook/ppower 16/1 betfred/totesport Born to frolic 12/1 365/skybet 11/1 totesport/betfred
Was looking at this race more of maybe a place or places,prescott has a 3yr old running of no weght and a short price,general brook is nine now so thoroughy exposed won over c/d last seaso back to back races off 59 and 61 and this season has run two respectable races back here over c/d
a fourth in a 0-65 and a third in a 0-75 although only six runners,gets to drop into a 0-60 tomorrow off just 59 although strangely went off bigger pruce in a weajker race last time out and was beaten 38ls oer the c/d...Had run ok on softer ground before so hard t find an excuse hopefully it ws the griund and the grund rides nearer good tomorrow.
Born to frolic was just infront of general brook iin one of those early season c/d races,the 0-75 hadn't run for six months so if reproduced that form in thid class then another with a decent ew chance,although hasn't been seen sice that run in may trauiner matthew salaman has very few wunners which would be the negative..
8.45
And the new 2/1 skybet So near so farh 11/2 hills 5/1 skybet
And the new is rated 12 over hurdles,has run at hepstow before over 1m4fs gt a fair way behind then stayed on upped in trip tomorrow to 2mile
that 1m4fs race looked weak but looking back kingsfast has won again the winner,the fourth sigrid nansen won three on the bounce was rated 50 in that race and now rated 62 and rosie royale was in sixth and thats won and run well again as well..Could be well in off 65.
So near so farh has been consistent,won over c/d winning off 64 then ran at chester fourth of seven and going off 15/8 fav although that was a 0-85 big drop in class and anothrr obvious ew chance.
Roll on the aw,all this turf racing i barely get a chance to even watch or do anything else bar doing form you find a bet and its no price or overwatered ground,hate this time of year with watering etc just kills the racing..
Last edited by gigilo; 26th July 2019 at 12:45 PM.
Ponte 4.30
Diamond dougal 9/1 ppower/sportsbook 8/1 888sport/lads 15/2 generally
Diamond dougal usually runs the same sort of race looked in better form early season at windsor winning off 89 and then running in an 0-105 second to reputation strangely those goings didn't look right for him on most of its form usually form has been with more cut..Am just wondering looking at recent runs wehther horse is just coming to the ed of its season as its last run was one of its poorest but wasn't beaten far even though 7th of 9 it just looked weaker than its previous two runs when 5th running on at ascot in a 0-95 and the 4th of 15 at haydock in a 0-95 again staying on..
At the moment the going is gd/gdfm there is supposed to be more forecast rain and would definitely need it as the market leaders prefer faster ground and diamond dougal has a poor draw in 9 although there is plenty of pace in the race which could be in its favour if the ground were to change..If the rains come and gets in the ground a couple of these will drift and diamond dougal even though poorly drawn should shorten won at 4/1 at windsor in this grade early season, off 89 tomorrow is off same mark but claimer takes off another 5 so a mark of 84 could well go off 9/2 -5/1 so could be a decent trade in there weather will determine its price,the more it rains the more likey to contract.
A bit of rain,a very smelly drift 9/2 out to 8s huge drift in the last 10 mins before the off think it stunk a bit dropping in class the race alsi got ruined with tricky dicky getting take out no chance of coming from behind probably decided not to try from the 9 draw once that one was taken out.No way it shouldv'e been going off 8s in that race on betfair,hope you got a free bet because the drift was only last 10 mins,it was so obvious what was going to happen with that druft,fristrating but still one to follow..
Last edited by gigilo; 28th July 2019 at 5:00 PM.
Ayr 3.30
Al Erayg 8/1 365/ppower/sortsbook across the boards again could turn into decent trade,
Al Erayg again put it up last time at 12/1 went off 11/4 fav in this grade,the excuses have run out really,tomorrow soft ground last time it ran on soft ground was 5th off 85 at chester staying on in a 0-105 in may then followed that up with a 5th to admiralty at thirsk off 85 in another 0-105 and since those runs poorer form on faster ground tomorrow off 77..The grounds going to be more like chesters ground when 5th so will have a small bet,the other obvious ones on known form are presidential likes this ground looks the obvious one ,little between that and Al erayg on their 4th and 7th behind muntatab last season on this ground at donny and aeolus was different class to these plummetted in weights and was upsides Al erayg at thirsk over 7fs at thirsk,if its the trip it needs with this ground then would have a great chance as well..A possibility that the ground could go too soft for a lot of these if again forecast rain does arrive..
It's a tratding dream this horse 5/2 again,won a few quid on the race,but i still think when its a huge price it will run better in a better race like chester two best runs,these horses getting easy leads they need to collapse..
Windsor 8.20
Mums Hope 7/2 ppower/sportsbook
Mums hope has only had six runs having shown little till last time out at ascot over a mile beaten 4ls by a decent looking type the 5th and 6th have run well from the race beaten over 8ls fabulist touched off in a 0-100 and the other, be more winning a 0-90 on saturday..That was on decent ground at ascot and may have been why the improvement,ground currently gd/gdsft in places am hoping no rain and by time the last race has been run could be back to pretty quick ground not guaranteed but should be ok as long as no rain that was in a 0-90 a 0-75 tomorrow.
Gin palace(13/2) should also run well,also just the eight runs and last time out was 4th of 10 beaten 4ls in a 0-80 over c/d no reason why it shouldn't run well again, already won a 0-85 this season at brighton although that was a weak race for the grade,this looks on paper about the same.
Add this race for multiple as well struggling to find four races..
[B]Windsor 6.05
Endowed 6/4 365 Smokey Bear 3/1 ppower/sportsbook
Endowed has been second in a nursery off 77 last time out at york,winner troubadors won again off 86 so the one to beat but forms not unbeatable lots of decent trainers in race and a few unraced ones..Smokey bear ran over c/d on debut again form looks nothing special,looking at the weak opening handicap on same card over c/d on the same day i supect he's near an an 80 horse so these two look like they're going to run well,anything above average though they will struggle to win betting will be very informative.
4/1 smokey blue 365/sportsbook/ppower/victor gamble on palmers looks ominous.
Last edited by gigilo; 29th July 2019 at 3:36 PM.
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Lets keep the thread friendly please.
2,000 Guineas
Pinatubo 4/1 lads 7/2 skybet/corals/totesport/betfred.
I said when i put up Visinari and pinatubo could be the pointer for the 2,000 guineas it looked like nothing else turned up but the time of the race and ease of the win backs up the winners massive potential..The vintage stakes was a 1.07 seconds quicker than the older horse lennox stakes winner rated 111 thats miles clear of anything this season and i'm sure nothing will get anywhere near that sort of time either..Not forgetting pinatubo won easily and softer ground and went on faster ground at ascot,not even sure i can remember any 2yr old group race being a second quicker than an older group 2 ever,probably has been but i can't remember...that winning time puts it off the scale...A very short price for a long wait,but there would have to be something very special to come out now and on the day you could be looking at an odds on shot..would never do a bet like this and wait for so long but with a time like that its impossible to not have a bet..
Last edited by gigilo; 30th July 2019 at 3:50 PM.
The betting has suggested the last twice that the horse was going to run poorly,also think dettori gae it the worst ride you will ever see today into a headwind taken onby something,not great sire stas on sifter ground althiugh those are pobably excuses something strange about those two runs the entrys itself suggest to me it just hasn't turned up and the betting as well..At 66/1 what have you got to lose,in saying that if pinatubo can run eve better than that today then would look unbeatable.
So, firstly, if I delete a post its because I want it deleting, not reposting a couple of hours later.
Secondly, I think every single post you've made since early June has been a dig at Andy, I don't know if you are in love with him and have some weird obsession or something but if you want to stay a member, I suggest you stop.
Metro (30th July 2019), Outsider (30th July 2019), pernicious (30th July 2019)