Mostahdaf surely the value play in the POW's?
Mostahdaf surely the value play in the POW's?
At 6/1? He's certainly progressive and whilst on the face of it Foxes Tales let the form down at the weekend he just didn't look like he stayed. Gosden also has Lord North and Mishriff in it. Honestly I prefer State of Rest at bigger odds but not sure if this is the plan.
When roughly do we get the handicap entries through.
Cheers Outsider. I am curious to see if my tracker Natural Path gets entered at the meeting.
I see he is not in either the Wokingham or Royal Hunt Cup.
That only really leaves the Buckingham Palace Stakes Handicap over 7 furlongs on the third day as his possible entry at the meeting.
Let me know when you see the Buckingham Palace Stakes handicap entries.
Last edited by Marb; 18th May 2022 at 9:25 PM.
Only rated 86 so wouldnt have got in the hunt cup or wokingham.
I am far from a time expert.
However, I see that Highfield Princess won at Royal Ascot over 7 furlongs in that Buckingham Palace Handicap last year with a time of 1 min 25.96 secs.
Shine So Bright won over the same 7 furlongs at Newmarket last Saturday with a time of 1 min 24.46.
They run up a hill towards the finish over that 7f at Newmarket so you'd think Ascot is a faster track over 7 furlongs and yet still the time of Shine So Brights win on Saturday was about 1.5 seconds faster than Highfield Princess winning time last year, (she looks like a good winner of that race based on what she's done since).
So all in all, (any time experts feel free to chip in and I know comparing times at different tracks is problematic), but I would say that the form of the Shine So Bright race last Saturday looks rock solid.
If Natural Path can improve a couple of lengths the next few weeks he could land a big prize of a mark of 86.
Be interesting to see where the Simon Crisford colt goes next and the winner Shine So Bright is group class. But the handicapper could have both their measures in terms of winning a big handciap at Royal Ascot.
I don't think the same can be said of Natural Path off 86.
Last edited by Marb; 18th May 2022 at 10:19 PM.
Outsider (18th May 2022)
Yes good point and looking at it Natural Path would need to go up 6 or 7lbs to stand a chance of getting in the Buckingham Palace handicap at Royal Ascot.
It's a possibility they will swerve Royal Ascot, pick up a smaller race in between and then try to win a big handicap at Glorious Goodwood.
I feel that is the most likely.
Last edited by Marb; 18th May 2022 at 10:11 PM.
Will be interested if New London takes up his King Edward V11 entry as despite his odds on defeat at Chester do think he will be a top class middle distance colt
8-1 currently
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Outsider (20th May 2022)
Outsider (22nd May 2022)
Homeless Songs in the Coronation? Pretty damn impressive today.
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Her last run threatened that. Class.
Stick to a mile I imagine.
All comers, all grounds, all beaten!
This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.
Very impressive, looked the winner as soon as she picked up.
Ah! but a man's reach should exceed his grasp......
If there is a negative I would point to the fact that nothing else was travelling from 2 1/2 furlongs out.
and I reckon the second needs 12 furlongs already
She does look a bit special but no moreso than Inspiral looked in the fillies Mile and that form has worked out extremly well.
She's fav for the Coronation at 2/1 Inspiral 3/1 but that's mainly because she was pulled out of the Guineas.
If they do clash at Ascot and Inspiral is 100% I'd be in the Gosdon camp
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It looks like the second, third and fifth have run to within a pound of their OR differentials with the fourth improving a wee bit.
The winning distance of 5.5 lengths equates to just over 12lbs, which I'd be of a mind to round up to 13lbs for the ease of victory.
Moore appeared intent on making it a proper stamina test so the race looked true run and I think the form can be relied upon.
My provisional figures have the winner on 122p. That is high class, with the promise of more to come at further based on breeding.
And all of this is discounting general progress from the beaten horses.
With the allowance, it might well be possible for her to take on and maybe even beat the colts later in the season. I wouldn't mind seeing how she progresses through the summer with a view to a tilt at the Arc.
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In comparison to who? YOU? My record of star ******bets is there for all to see
Unbeaten winning run has extended to 9 Since January 1st
Frere D'armes ***Star bet at Evens-WON 400
JPR One My first ***** star bet of the year @ Evens-WON
Ardhill *** star bet @6/4 NON RUNNER
Bavington Bob Newcastle 1.23pm 15/8 *** Star bet WON
Mister Fisher ** star bet 15/8-WON
Bob Olinger Shishkin 5*****star double 6/4 WON
Jonbon Shiskin3***star bet approx 11/8 WON
3*** win bet Bells of Peterboro 11/4 plus Gazette Bourgeoise 2 places 3*** 150 pts Profit Win
Chantry House 5*****start bet Evens WON
Saint Felician 2**star Bet evens LOST
Parisencore 3 star *** Bet Evens WON
Ile De Jersey 2 star ** bet 6/4 LOST 2nd
1 Star * bet Monbeg Genius 2/1 WON
West to the Bridge 4 star bet 11/10 WON
Persian Force 2** Star Bet 11/8 Won
Chindit 5* Bet 4/6 WON
Sceau Royal 3***star bet 11/8 to be placed 3rd WON
Treyarnon Bay Evens 5Star ***** bet. WON
French War AUS 5/2 WON
Cirque Royal 5/2 3Star***Bet WON
Samburu 5star ***** bet 5/4 is stealing money WON
Desert Crown 2star** bet 7/2 WON
Nashwa 1.72 Won
Persian Force 1.66 3star*** double 2.85 WON
20 winning bets 2 losing bets
If I missed any I apologies in advance but I wasted enough time digging them out.
Last edited by Tanlic; 23rd May 2022 at 9:30 AM.
Formely Fist of Fury
Not too sure how anyone is going to even remotely argue with that list, even I took (small) advantage of 6 of the last 7 and I wouldn't normally go near anything under 16-1. Thanks for that, Tanlic, one of the most consistent runs I ever saw (at any odds).
Tanlic (23rd May 2022)