Desert Orchid (22nd June 2022)
‘Specially if it’s their debut handicap
Desert Orchid (22nd June 2022), Slim (22nd June 2022)
Coming off the pace when there is no pace! Princess Zoe basically stopped where he wanted to go and in a straight line. Watch the race from 4 out to just inside the 2 and how the first 3 home were used.
Strad was used up to close the gap and was finished before the line yes.
Anyway I'm starting to bore myself now
All comers, all grounds, all beaten!
This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.
barjon (23rd June 2022)
Frankie ia in big trouble...........Gosden thinks he should have won both the Oaks and The Gold Cup
No if or buts about it........no rides on Saturday for Gosden.........anyone know any alternative reason why?
Formely Fist of Fury
They have clearly fallen out. The whole thing was too public and Gosden is too big a **** to not keep digging. You can't throw your jockey under the bus.
They've fallen out because of Frankie's riding - end of.
LUKE (23rd June 2022)
Perhaps that’s why Hollie has made an appearance. What’s that got to do with Frankie, anyway?
It looks like Dettori has only one booked ride over the next few days, on Saturday at Newmarket where the Gosdens have three runners and he isn't booked for any of them. His ride is for Beckett.
Maybe they're taking time to cool down but it can hardly be a positive. especially when you have to wonder how many trainers and owners might want his services.
Is he, as someone once said to me, being "ostrichised"?
Illegitimi non carborundum
"Everyone has eyes in their head."
Except Gosden when Havlin is riding.
Last edited by Slim; 23rd June 2022 at 10:35 PM.
JG can see a lot more than you give him credit for.
Rab Havlin is a stand-in jockey, and that's probably all he'll ever aspire to.
It's been apparent for a while that JG is exasperated with Frankie, both for his self-publicity clowning, his riding; and his weak performances at Epsom an Ascot have just brought it closer to the surface.
FD's card is most definitely marked, and he may not last the season out,imo.
Except that Fallon jnr is a young lad with respect. Dettori is a senior with years of experience and an attitude at times that stinks. (I have personally known him since he was 16 when I worked with him at Cumani’s). Gosden is known for being diplomatic and reserved. The fact that he has publicly stated his disapproval speaks volumes.
tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito
Imagine one of the best jockeys of all time having to go out like this because a **** horse like Stradivarius got beat twice at Ascot.
One of my least favourite things about the sport is when the current discourse, as it is now, is all about Jockeys. I don't give two shits who ride the horses I back, never have.
I'm the opposite. While I acknowledge most top jockeys can do near enough the same job on a winning horse, and sometimes the role they played on a horse gets over exaggerated, the lifestyles they live, having to starve all year, the dedication to do what they do I think needs to be applauded.
When I first got into racing as a teenager 20 years ago or so while the top jockeys were good enough calibre, Fallon, Kinane, Murtagh etc, they were part of an era that didn't speak a lot, on camera at least, and therefore viewers like me didn't connect with them as much as we do with the jockeys of today..
Nowadays we have great stories like Hollie Doyle, a very competative list of jockeys at the top table who are good communicators, and when I have a losing day, I feel that at least a percentage of my money went to support a horse racing game that jockeys were apart of and have dedicated and sacrificed so much for.
In some instances their own lives.
Last edited by Marb; 24th June 2022 at 10:29 AM.