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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    I look forward to working out ratings for the race.

    Runner-up rated 105.
    Third rated 109.

    Hmmmmm....
    It's a head scratcher. So many horses have ran no race or just been beaten stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    I look forward to working out ratings for the race.

    Runner-up rated 105.
    Third rated 109.

    Hmmmmm....
    The runner up was slowly away and finished well in the Craven behind Native Trail. He was third but the second had a better position through the race. Trip and a decent pace has wrung improvement out of him and from a top yard.

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    My ex is going to be impossible now as he told me after last seasons run, DC would win the Derby. And he kept backing it. Oddly (as he has access to my BF account) he didn’t actually back it for me but stuck a couple of random bets on Hafit and Walk of Stars for me instead . I questioned him especially after I saw how gangly WoS was. I backed the winner but only at vastly shorter prices than he had advised. Ah well. A good winner and fair play for all those who spotted him so early on...apparently half of Newmarket were on.
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    My ex is going to be impossible now as he told me after last seasons run, DC would win the Derby. And he kept backing it. Oddly (as he has access to my BF account) he didn’t actually back it for me but stuck a couple of random bets on Hafit and Walk of Stars for me instead . I questioned him especially after I saw how gangly WoS was. I backed the winner but only at vastly shorter prices than he had advised. Ah well. A good winner and fair play for all those who spotted him so early on...apparently half of Newmarket were on.
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    Well done to the Desert Crown supporters, he was an emphatic winner.

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    It’s always worth taking note of horses that Michael Stout starts off at Nottingham, especially as it has a Tottenham Corner type bend. Says I who never thought of backing him. Hindsight and all that.

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    It’s always worth taking note of horses that Michael Stout starts off at Nottingham, especially as it has a Tottenham Corner type bend. Says I who never thought of backing him. Hindsight and all that.

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    You mean it’s left handed. Apart from that it’s not very like Epsom....flat as a pancake for a start.
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    You mean it’s left handed. Apart from that it’s not very like Epsom....flat as a pancake for a start.
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    I was told years ago that the bend was very like Tattenham corner. But I suppose a lot of tracks have similar bends. I haven’t been to many flat racing tracks.

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    I was told years ago that the bend was very like Tattenham corner. But I suppose a lot of tracks have similar bends. I haven’t been to many flat racing tracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moehat View Post
    It’s always worth taking note of horses that Michael Stout starts off at Nottingham, especially as it has a Tottenham Corner type bend. Says I who never thought of backing him. Hindsight and all that.
    I understand your confusion...old age doesn't come itself

    Very easy to confuse Lingfield and Nottingham as they both have ING in their names
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    Last edited by Tanlic; 4th June 2022 at 10:13 PM.
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    Don't see any sense in trying to rate Desert Crown. On paper he beat dross but did it in the style of a very good horse.

    But if one insists on a rating give him the same as Baaeed 125
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    Don't see any sense in trying to rate Desert Crown. On paper he beat dross but did it in the style of a very good horse.

    But if one insists on a rating give him the same as Baaeed 125

    Aren't your eyes good enough? it will take a very good horse to beat him, whatever they are rated by someone else.

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    Don't see any sense in trying to rate Desert Crown. On paper he beat dross but did it in the style of a very good horse.

    But if one insists on a rating give him the same as Baaeed 125

    Aren't your eyes good enough? it will take a very good horse to beat him, whatever they are rated by someone else.

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    In that case why try to give any horse a rating?

    The whole point of ratings is to try and give measurable or quantifiable evaluations of the ability of horses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    Don't see any sense in trying to rate Desert Crown. On paper he beat dross but did it in the style of a very good horse.
    Agree completely, after RK took a pull 3 down, the rest weren't in the same race, and any rating would be pure guesswork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    Don't see any sense in trying to rate Desert Crown. On paper he beat dross but did it in the style of a very good horse.
    Agree completely, after RK took a pull 3 down, the rest weren't in the same race, and any rating would be pure guesswork.

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