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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    I'd be interested in Vanillier for the Stayers but he's not quoted. I could ask but they automatically give you a **** price when you do that.
    25/1 very acceptable. Stablemate of Flooring Porter but he can't stay chasing surely, can't jump.

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    Pertemps?

    Currently off 150 over hurdles (148 chases).

    Get him in off 145 or even less...
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    Stayers Hurdle, not Pertemps. It will be very winnable next year as I'd have to assess this year's as below average, Paisley Park way too close up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barjon View Post
    Unfluent from RP a bit harsh I reckon, Marb. I thought he jumped pretty well, but made two poor ones with the one three out costing him quite a lot. He’s still wok in progress and coming along nicely.
    Yeah was just going on what the RP said..I will watch the replay myself in a bit.

    Ahoy a work in progress for sure.

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    What's happening with Monkfish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    Stayers Hurdle, not Pertemps. It will be very winnable next year as I'd have to assess this year's as below average, Paisley Park way too close up.
    Dunno about that, Euro. I'll assess it in due course but I reckon FP is a real top notcher.
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    PP was beaten less than 3 lengths though. To me the third in the spud race is a similar type and ran a similar race - he was thumped 10 lengths. I just think a top notcher would beat a 10yo on the decline by a lot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marb View Post
    Yeah was just going on what the RP said..I will watch the replay myself in a bit.

    Ahoy a work in progress for sure.
    Watched it again. Two or three minor mistakes during the race but nothing to be overly worried about.

    Hits a flat spot and looks for a second like he might finish fifth or six but his engine kicks in well to keep on for second.

    The winner hasn't been beaten over fences and it'll be interesting to see how he performs next season aswell.

    I suppose at current odds I would rather take 20s each way on Ahoy Senor than 10s win on L Homme Press but thats just my personal preference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    PP was beaten less than 3 lengths though. To me the third in the spud race is a similar type and ran a similar race - he was thumped 10 lengths. I just think a top notcher would beat a 10yo on the decline by a lot more.
    Well he gave decent types 15 lengths of a start and beat them last time. I think he's still a mid-160s hurdler and I thought there was more to the performance [FP's] than the bare result. I thought he won more than cosily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outsider View Post
    What's happening with Monkfish?
    Year off

    Big staying chaser. Be more pessimistic than optimistic that he makes it back to same level
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marb View Post
    Probably a bit left field, but Ahoy Senor actually ran a good race to finish second to Le Homme Presse given the rain came that day and his best form is on better going.

    That was only his fifth or six run over fences from memory and I feel he is still a work in progress.

    I heard concerns about how he would handle the track and looking at the Racing Post it says he was unfluent during his race.

    He can come on and do better for the experience next season I think.

    A bit premature to talk about a Gold Cup but I will watch his progress with interest next season.
    I grant you Ahoy Senor did really well to finish second but he did it again...Minute he comes under pressure he seems to panic and clout one..........Did it at Carlisle and against Barvemansgame and again this week.

    I could be wrong but I think he has a bit of a mental issue and wrorries too much.
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    Been looking back at Jobon and to be fair to him he was going better than anything before Dysart Fell and CH's turbo kicked in.

    He'll definitely go chasing next season whereas CH will wait a year or even longer if he can beat Honeysuckle, thats a given and I think we can expect big improvement when he does as he does seem to have a very high cruising speed and was having no trouble matching Dysart stride for stride.

    I would defintely have him over Dysart for the Arkle at 14/1. Can't have Sir Gehard I think he's overrated...time will tell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    I wouldn't mind getting a price on Hillcrest for the 3-miler.
    NH chase.

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    20/1 double Constitution Hill (CH) and Galopin Des Champs (GC) men in white coats??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    True, but JP covets the Champion Hurdle, never won the Arkle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    20/1 double Constitution Hill (CH) and Galopin Des Champs (GC) men in white coats??
    Id be steering clear of that. Willies dropping GDC bsck down to 2 miles.

    Id say he’s odds on to go Ryanair, but Ive been wrong before ill be wrong again.

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    Minella Cocooner 16s for the Brown Advisory at Lads/Corals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    25/1 very acceptable. Stablemate of Flooring Porter but he can't stay chasing surely, can't jump.
    33s bet365

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    Quote Originally Posted by del boy View Post
    Where can I get evens??
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    Skybet to win any race.

    CH 7/4
    GDC 5/2
    AM 6/1
    DD 7/1
    James du berlais 10/1

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