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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    It's an extended mile and a quarter with a long straight and 12f animals have a good record in it. I think 11/4 is a smidge too big.
    She's clearly got a good chance. Mishriff though we know gets a bit further and is probably running over his optimum. The other Haggas horse may want a bit further too, so maybe those two will try and make this a test and break the stalkers.
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    RM may well provide the pace on Love. He'll probably know the limitations o the rest, and may try and nick it from the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    That's possible but I don't see how Alcohol Free shortens given her chance of staying is non existent.
    There is a fair chance that the step up in trip is beyond her at this level of competition and that is why she is not favourite.
    I "adopted" her last year and my evaluation of her abilities is certainly impacted by my fondness for the horse. She is still to mature and imo is learning race by race. Murphy is learning about her as well and Goodwood provided fair evidence that the pair are working well together.
    Immediately after the Goodwood win Balding was asked on TV what would be her next target. He gave a glowing report on her physical and mental development and said he would really like to go for the Juddmonte, shortly after the owner said the same. I still have some doubts but they know the horse far better than I and have plenty of easier but still valuable options.

    AF's defeats this season, at a top level, have come when the ground has been Good to Firm and it may well that that ground restricts her running style. It is forecast to be good tomorrow and if she gets comfortable she may well stay. With a small field and a top jockey she has a fighting chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    I'd quite like to take the other Haggas contender in a match bet to be honest.
    Runs to emsure no repeat of the York Stakes debacle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reet hard View Post
    Runs to emsure no repeat of the York Stakes debacle?
    The owners surely wouldn't forego a lay up in the Voltigeur just to be a pacemaker. My stats say I do horrible backing long priced horses in Group races unless it's a classic, the Arc or it's a foreign trained animal so I've backed him in the w/o market at 7s.

    Hurricane Ivor and long long time tracker horse Bodyline the other bets today although I have Sir Lucan in a couple of doubles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    Hurricane Ivor I will back in the opening handicap. The ground was completely against him at Goodwood.

    I actually want to oppose Kemari. Isn't he just a bit boaty to bet at 12f given his price.

    The Juddmonte looks a watch only race.
    What does “boaty” mean?
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    Slow as a boat. A tendency to slowness.

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    In the 4.10, I'm pleased to see money for the two hurdlers, Arcadian Sunrise and Scaramanga. I took them at 9/2 and 17/2 respectively yesterday morning (dutching to take out 10pts at around 5/2) and I presume someone of influence has put up Scaramanga for him to halve in price this morning.

    Arcadian Sunrise was already improving on the Flat and took his improving hurdles form to another level when winning the Galway Hurdle and looks very well handicapped. Scaramanga is rated higher officially over hurdles but I don’t know if the UK handicapper has gone higher again with Arcadian Sunrise, as he tends to do. Either way, their hurdles form would make them very difficult to beat if they can translate it directly across to the Flat again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    Slow as a boat. A tendency to slowness.
    Charlie Applebydoesn't seem at all concerned with today's trip.
    Had some more on @ 9/2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    Slow as a boat. A tendency to slowness.
    Thank you, still going to back it!
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    9/2 is fair but I have to say, his trainer might be slightly biased so his opinion isn't really important.

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    Alenquer is in the race to try and nick the race from the front and if he can’t do that then I guess connections are hoping he will set it up for the Shadwell animal. It’s a bit of a no lose for them really. Either way they get what they want.

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    Cracking race in prospect - whatever happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    The owners surely wouldn't forego a lay up in the Voltigeur just to be a pacemaker. My stats say I do horrible backing long priced horses in Group races unless it's a classic, the Arc or it's a foreign trained animal so I've backed him in the w/o market at 7s.

    Hurricane Ivor and long long time tracker horse Bodyline the other bets today although I have Sir Lucan in a couple of doubles.
    Yes I'm on the Sir Lucan/Love double.

    I'm just hoping there's no hard luck stories after their races.

    Looking at the fields I'm more hopeful than expectant that they'll win.

    As Reet says, a proper race in store.

    I see there's some money for Scope with the dead eight runners. I'll kick myself if he causes a shock.
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    Blimey!!

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    Agree. Wow!

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    The Arc should be a proper good race this year.

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    I was never convinced High Definition would stay 12f. I'm now not convinced he'd stay any distance at pace.

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    Remember when Await the Dawn was odds on for the Juddmonte? That was nearly as bad.

    As expected Alenquer beat his stable companion. Good result - Mishriff top class.

    I don't get involved in boat race handicaps but Bodyline was a tracker since the King George V at Ascot last year (12f of course). He's not a two miler but I felt I had to bet him just in case. Jesus, they are boring races. Slow slow slow. At least with the jumps you have the obstacles to enhance interest.

    No bet tomorrow although I do like the Varian filly in YO - hard to see her beating Snowfall though.
    Last edited by Euronymous; 18th August 2021 at 4:58 PM.

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