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    Quote Originally Posted by G-G View Post
    That's not 2 weeks from today as per DG's post?
    i know. it's 4 days away.

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    Sorry GG, was assuming same as Charles Byrne. I did put "I think"
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    "The owls are not what they seem"

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    Yes, ban starts 9 March. Itís the last six months thatís suspended.

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    "The owls are not what they seem"

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    So actually the BHA have decided to do nothing independently? As slightly suspected.........
    Baby maybe better come back next week, can't you see I'm on a losing streak

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    Up the Samcro.

    Im excited once more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    We will lose Colm to Cullentra Version 2
    Hope he sends us a few talking horses before anyone else hears about them.
    Henceforth let An Capall be known as Rasputin by one and all !

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    Julie Harrington is on The Opening Show this morning to discuss the GE case amongst other things, with no sign of Chapman listed among the other contributors thank God.

    https://www.racingpost.com/news/late...-horror/476575
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    Thank you for the kind words. (For those who haven't as yet added their praise I will wait 24 hours before final judgement.)
    "And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew."

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    Harvey on the TV this morning:

    "This is the worst thing I have ever seen [in my racing life]"

    Utter pish.

    Doping scandals all over the world down the years.

    Perception and perspective are as much the issues as the photos themselves.
    Two's company, three's allowed.

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    If thatís the worst thing heís ever seen heís had a very, VERY sheltered life.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Geezer View Post
    Julie Harrington is on The Opening Show this morning to discuss the GE case amongst other things, with no sign of Chapman listed among the other contributors thank God.

    https://www.racingpost.com/news/late...-horror/476575
    existential-crisis only exists because people like her cant keep their traps shut and let it die a natural death..'Every time someone publishes something it gives the negheads a reason to stirs up trouble........BHA should move on to more important like doping, cruelty, cheating
    Formely Fist of Fury

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    Yep. And the general public should worry more about the thousands of horses who are ACTUALLY mistreated.


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    And the other guy interviewed (Paul Heywood?) said something stupid about Elliott's name being mentioned as soon as one of his horses crosses the line at Cheltenham.

    The worst thing ITV (or indeed any of the racing media) could do would be to mention Elliott's name at any point during the meeting.

    Casual viewers looking in will be looking for any opportunity to rubberneck anything negative. Don't give them anything.

    If one of Elliott's is in view, mention the horse and the current 'trainer'. The average inlooker will have no idea if it's one of Elliott's.

    If they want to go and dig into the details to find out if it's an Elliott horse, let them waste their time.

    And I do wish Mick Fitz would stop going on about 'five-star' accommodation for horses. They're not living in the Ritz. I imagine in smaller yards where money is very tight, accommodation might fall well short of three star, let alone five star.

    I can remember when the trainer of an Irish Cheltenham winner back in the 70s almost boasted about leaving the horse out in the field all winter because it toughened the horse up. I've no idea if it's true but it's what he said.
    Two's company, three's allowed.

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    I usually wish MF would shut up regardless of the subject...


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    I think Luke has just summed it up well on the Opening Show. It’s all about the portrayal to the ignorant. And I completely agree with him that to an extent Racing lives in it’s own little bubble. But with the arrival of social media, it simply is impossible to continue in that vein. Social media is a dangerous tool when used as a means for rabble rousing (look what happened in the US in response to Trump’s venting on Twitter). And when you are rabble rousing towards those ignorant of the sport, the vast majority are easily led and will believe those who shout loudest.

    We all know that the very vast majority of horses in racing are looked after in superb conditions which cannot necessarily be same in other equine sports. But racing is the largest sport and it’s also the most visible one in all forms of media for good or bad. And it’s also one that combines sport with betting which to many people tarnish it further. To a non supporter we are seen as “cruel people who force horses to run getting whipped into the bargain for our pleasure and so that we can make financial gain”. Can you see how easy it is to peddle that one to someone who doesn’t understand? What Gordon has done is to reinforce these views by non supporters. And brought Racing into disrepute. There is no escaping that fact.

    I would be doubtful that he’s actually reading the toxic tweets towards him that are abounding. If he’s got any sense, he’s chucked his phone out or at least turned it off for the next six months. And I hope that this ban is exactly that. A ban from racing. From being involved in any yard. It will not do for him to remain there and have any involvement. A punishment should be exactly that. A few years ago I was asked to take over a yard from a trainer who was banned by the BHA for laying horses. It was a joke as he was allowed to remain in the yard. So he continued to train under my name and continued his practices as before (not running horses on their merits) and I had zero control. I pulled my licence after six weeks.

    I hope he spends the next six months doing something useful possibly in a charitable way and reflects on what a complete idiot he’s been. Yes of course we all do stupid things but the implications and the fall out from this are huge. And for what it’s worth, I had the highest regard for him as a trainer
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    Funny old thread this - started off with shock, horror all round and finished up as a storm in a teacup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barjon View Post
    Funny old thread this - started off with shock, horror all round and finished up as a storm in a teacup.
    Not quite all round


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    Quote Originally Posted by barjon View Post
    Funny old thread this - started off with shock, horror all round and finished up as a storm in a teacup.
    Yup.

    Sat on a dead horse, move on!!
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

    This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.

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