Many Clouds was still technically a 7 year old when he won I suppose. I know I felt at the time that Hedgehunter just needed another year to mature after he fell in his first National. It just seems like a different race now.
Many Clouds was still technically a 7 year old when he won I suppose. I know I felt at the time that Hedgehunter just needed another year to mature after he fell in his first National. It just seems like a different race now.
Outsider (11th April 2021)
Patrick Mullins account of his ride in the Grand National. Good read.
https://www.racingpost.com/news/gran...&utm_term=Null
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chroniclandlord (13th April 2021), edgt (12th April 2021), G-G (14th April 2021), HawkWing (12th April 2021)
The downside being the stick I get when any tip doesn't win.!!! 2 years ago, 2019 the one I really fancied needed rain and I kept saying that but of course it didn't rain and Tiger Roll won and I got stick for weeks after. If I had a Pound for every time I had to say ' IT DIDN'T RAIN and I told you it had to rain , but you ignored that bit and backed him anyway!! ' All ignoring that I said back Frodon for Ryanair at that Cheltenham, and again for last year's KG that 33s was a ridiculous price - Oh Frodon won, YES HE DID - did you back him? Oh no I forgot. Not sure what else a girl can do!Originally Posted by moe
Sands of Mali, October 2018 at Ascot , got his ground I said, back him I said, did they............
One guy who's a legal bod and very good at his job, 2 summers ago ( very few been in the office since last March ) came up to my desk and said ' If I said Encore and Crystal Glass, what would you say? ' Err I'm not sure what would I say? Would you bet on them? Why when are they running? At Ascot on Saturday. Are they, which race? I don't know but one's a sure thing he says. Do you mean Enable and Crystal Ocean I say? Oh that might be them....... Well she's very short I say and likely to win so might be better to do a forecast. What's that he says? So I tell him. What if he beats her he says ( I'd explained that one was a girl and the other one wasn't by now ) well possibly, so do a reverse forecast. What's that he says. I tell him...nope...I tell him again...nope , can you email me with it he says and give me their numbers ( I told him if using Tote.... ) so I do. He goes racing 3 times a year and doesn't bet otherwise. Won £240, £20 note and a box of chocs on my desk on the Monday. No no I said don't be silly...no he says wouldn't have got it if not for you. I say wouldn't have got if they hadn't finished one and two, nothing to do with me! I always told him Raising Sand as well, which he did but he said he still came out down on the day!
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Vote Alfie!!!!
Every year I get the same people crawling out of the woodwork to ask me what’s going to win the National. Every year I say use a pin!
Actually this year my family all WhatsApped me so I gave them five horses. Including Minella Times, Any Second Now and Farclas. Told them to back them each way. Only my eldest nephew listened to his shrewd aunt and is a very happy lad. The rest all thought they knew better......
tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito
I send out my ratings and pinstickers guide every year. The family all knows how much time I spend on the form and, while they appreciate my input, they seem to prefer deciding for themselves. I think it's something in the genes. I suppose it would be asking a bit much to expect them all to just row along with my figures and thoughts but they'd be doing fine if they did!Every year I get the same people crawling out of the woodwork to ask me what’s going to win the National. Every year I say use a pin!
Actually this year my family all WhatsApped me so I gave them five horses. Including Minella Times, Any Second Now and Farclas. Told them to back them each way. Only my eldest nephew listened to his shrewd aunt and is a very happy lad. The rest all thought they knew better......
Illegitimi non carborundum
He's very good.
Every year since 2007 I get invited to hospitality at the festival. This year they had a virtual horse racing event on the Wednesday evening where I was asked for a tip the next day. Managed to splutter out Flooring Porter and a couple backed it. The rest said your tips never win although I’ve given them a few winners before (a few more losers it’s true). It’s always the losers that get rememberedEvery year I get the same people crawling out of the woodwork to ask me what’s going to win the National. Every year I say use a pin!
Actually this year my family all WhatsApped me so I gave them five horses. Including Minella Times, Any Second Now and Farclas. Told them to back them each way. Only my eldest nephew listened to his shrewd aunt and is a very happy lad. The rest all thought they knew better......
Also gave the same crowd Minella Times but that will no doubt be forgotten too
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My experience with colleagues is largely the same. Give them a couple of winners and you're God's gift. Follow it up with a couple of losers and you're a clown.
I do, however, recall two colleagues (separate workplaces) who were the opposite. They completely blanked the losers and kept remembering the winners I gave them. Purely by coincidence, they were school technicians, one male and one female.
The former I remember giving him a few winners, notably one called Go Bananas at a nice price. Years later he was still going on about it. Great guy.
The latter was a lovely, even-tempered woman who absolutely beamed whenever I gave her one (a winner, that is) and whose parting shot to me when I left was along the lines of 'what am I going to do for horses to bet?' but she said it with that lovely smile she had.
Those are the people I prefer to remember.
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Illegitimi non carborundum
When civilians ask me for winners I default to the unabbreviated version of the greatest truism of the 21st century. NKFA.
"And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.
And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."
Two of us at work used to have a nap of the day competition which lasted throughout the season with a slap up pub lunch to finish, loser pays. The boss came in soon after we had started it and caught us studying form. When he found out what we were up to he was a good sport and joined in. “I’ll have the third horse down in the third race of the day at the main meeting” he said. We rubbed our hands in delight and thought of what we were going to have off the menu on him - he won it by a street, though, and I’ve never lived it down.
One of my first dates (as teenagers) with the (still) Mrs AC was to a mixed card at Leopardstown on a Friday night. It was her first time (at the races.) I have a memory of Exdirectory winning the Derby trial, so it must have been '78. Novice Hurdle: She liked the colours worn by a particular horse with a 'SWE' suffix on the racecard. I explained, very partronisingly with a soupcon of condensation that Swedish bred horses don't win hurdle races in Ireland and to find a different home for our 50p.
Nearly half a century later I still get 'but you wouldn't let me bet on Sword of Light, what do you know?' Needless to say it had hacked up at some stupid price.
"And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.
And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."
Len Madeiros (13th April 2021), Perpetual (13th April 2021)
Maybe your boss was quite canny barjon. I’m sure I used to be told the third horse down in a handicap was a likely winner and I bet the third race of the day would most likely be a handicap. WHill radio have an ongoing theory about grey number 5’s that do have an uncanny knack of winning.
Aye, that’s what we concluded (inevitably handicaps), but it didn’t save our blushes overmuch.
320 newmarket?
Grey no 5 1st 9/2
Maybe wrong but I think it applied to handicaps
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Also, jockeys trainers having winners on their birthday eg Paddy Brennan today....
Gavin Cromwell 3rd race at Fairyhouse... no3 won 10/1
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As it stands Vintage clouds is number 5 in the scottish national.
All sorts of stats re Rachel in this article upto and including last weekend
https://zoelouisesmithx.com/2021/04/...ave-ever-seen/
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edgt (14th April 2021)
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