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    Ruby very critical of Sam T-D there on ITV. Pretty much what I said to Mrs Viking


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    He's hopeless - so untidy and all over the place. Sure he hinders more than helps.
    Fabulous for Daryl Jacob, how lovely to watch his reaction. Such a shame no crowds...really miss the atmosphere when watching races like that.
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    Disappointing from LIT but you would have expected Bristol to win in that ground.
    Clan ran a lovely race before winning another KG.
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    TBH, I’d be a little concerned that the race has torn the arse out of both CDO and LIT, insofar as the King George is concerned.
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    You would always have a doubt after a race like that.
    LIT was never in it and has had a brutal race. Should have been pulled up and saved for another day.
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    Interesting what Tizzard has to say in next few days.

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    I don't think Sam T-D was too hard on CDO. He held on to him for as long as he was travelling and didn't beat him up when BDM upped the ante going to the last.

    I thought it was a fantastic reappearance from CDO and one I wasn't really expecting.
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    I've been checking the racing websites for any comments from Colin Tizzard, on attheraces website the trainer is quoted as saying the jockey Robbie Power knew the horse hated the ground from after the first fence, so apparently it was the ground.

    Lost In Translation is a lightly raced horse, I think that was his tenth start over fences. I don't know what's up with him but I doubt it's anything to do with mileage.

    If his next run is in the King George I think that will be the acid test, or D-day so to speak, especially after his dissapointing effort last year.

    It's unlikely but if he gets decent ground maybe he can bounce back. As I say, lightly raced and he can obviously run a hell of a lot better than he did today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marb View Post
    I've been checking the racing websites for any comments from Colin Tizzard, on attheraces website the trainer is quoted as saying the jockey Robbie Power knew the horse hated the ground from after the first fence, so apparently it was the ground.

    Lost In Translation is a lightly raced horse, I think that was his tenth start over fences. I don't know what's up with him but I doubt it's anything to do with mileage.

    If his next run is in the King George I think that will be the acid test, or D-day so to speak, especially after his dissapointing effort last year.

    It's unlikely but if he gets decent ground maybe he can bounce back. As I say, lightly raced and he can obviously run a hell of a lot better than he did today.
    Got to disagree.

    I’m happy to put a line through him now. He was in contention in a slowly run Gold Cup, even Real Deal came swinging in the Gold Cup. Shocking in the King George and shocking again today.

    I’m happy to to take him on in any race he happens to appear in now. I can forgive one bad performance, but this is twice now.

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    I won't be backing him any time soon I hasten to add, Double.

    Somewhat selfishly as he is my ten to follow I was just trying estimate what chance he would have in a King George after today. He'd certainly have more chance than if he didn't actually turn up on the day.

    As I say, I wouldn't be backing him after today. He's up against it now, clearly not a horse to ever want backing at prohibitively short odds either.
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    I reckon they'll ease off him now and look to bring him back for the Gold Cup. If he doesn't look up to it they'll try to get into next season's Grand National off a feasible weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    I reckon they'll ease off him now and look to bring him back for the Gold Cup. If he doesn't look up to it they'll try to get into next season's Grand National off a feasible weight.
    Are we talking Bristol or LIT here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankel View Post
    Are we talking Bristol or LIT here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    LIT
    Wouldn't get the trip if he started now though would he?
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankel View Post
    Wouldn't get the trip if he started now though would he?
    He got it last year and will be a year older/stronger.

    Can't think of any other race they would want to target with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    He got it last year and will be a year older/stronger.

    Can't think of any other race they would want to target with him.
    I was referring to the National which you mentioned.

    As for the Gold Cup. Did he really get the trip? He had decent ground and no pace to run at but got run out of it when hitting the front. Even with a bit of improvement he is highly unlikely to get those soft fractions again. Add in the potentially less decent ground and I think the trip will find him out. Could be wrong but time will tell.
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    Yes, there would have to be a doubt about LIT's staying the National trip. You never know until you try.

    I don't imagine many people expected Master Oats not to stay it having won the Welsh National so impressively but he didn't.

    It's one of the attractions of the race, trying to figure out - or even just place blind hope in it - what will stay. We don't know until they prove it.

    I certainly didn't expect Magic Of Light to stay it.
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