To my eye anything in front of AF is a hinderance Euro. He'd **** up in an Ascot Gold Cup though!Originally Posted by Euronymous
To my eye anything in front of AF is a hinderance Euro. He'd **** up in an Ascot Gold Cup though!
Last edited by Maruco; 15th January 2021 at 4:25 PM.
Especially Envoi Allen's hole...
Desert Orchid (15th January 2021)
I've managed to cash out my Shan Blue - RSA - each way bet. I backed him before his boxing day win, thinking the RSA would be his target.
Fair play to Bet 365, who made a decent cash out offer, which given the trainer said he's unlikely to run in the RSA, I thought was more than fair.
You go back ten years or so, and the anti-post betting landscape was so different, almost vile or criminal how unfair it was.
Last edited by Marb; 16th January 2021 at 11:02 AM.
At least you stood a chance of getting a decent ante-post price 10 years ago
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There are still opportunities every year. You just have to be prepared commit before they’ve run - something that’s especially true of novice chasers.
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The prices that they offer, (excluding betfair and the exchanges), are clearly a subjective issue though, Viking.
Anti post markets/prices will always court controversy for one reason or another.
Some will claim that you can't get a fair price while others will think the opposite.
I've been the first to critisise bookmakers over the years, whether it was Lord Donohue giving advice to government while on consultancy fees from bookmakers, to anti post prices or whatever else.
However, I'm happy to acknowledge good offers or bookmaker developments when they arise. I think the cash out option on anti post bets is a positive initiative.
Last edited by Marb; 16th January 2021 at 1:18 PM.
always irks me every year when a horse, particularly a novice chaser, comes out and wins well in a poor race and people moan the odds are clipped when they've "beat nothing"
they totally miss the point
Next Destination is in the right hands but wonder what exact % of his promise he retains
Last edited by granger; 16th January 2021 at 3:24 PM.
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
FFS.
What if!
All comers, all grounds, all beaten!
This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.
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Race of the season lasting 1 fence. I weren’t impressed with Envoi either
Things come easier to some than others
Envoi is very clinical and you know the horse and jockey didn't touch on his potential today
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
Energumene runs at the DRF also according to Willie
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
He went down. He came back. Nothing else of significance.
"And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.
And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."
I wasn't quite expecting that when I said this!To my eye anything in front of AF is a hinderance Euro. He'd **** up in an Ascot Gold Cup though!
It turned into a nothing race. Envoi Allen had a spin, did it efficiently, jumped well, quickened up and finished well when asked. He's still got four legs, and will win the Marsh.
Punchestown 3m stayers hurdle horse
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
double post
Last edited by Tanlic; 17th January 2021 at 4:43 PM.
Formely Fist of Fury
Having taken the plunge at short odd my head was full of "What if" Then what happened happened ..what a let down. Sure your happy when you win but like many I really wanted answers and today ended up a waste of space
Formely Fist of Fury
Was a shame as it would have been good to see how it would have panned out. Jumping name of the game though.
That said, the winner rocks up and does his job. Next!
All comers, all grounds, all beaten!
This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.
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