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    Fair do's to Cheltenham and the Jockey Club , after spending 2 very enjoyable days racing in December they are offering a full refund for all this season or free membership renewal for next year.

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    Yes. I'm one of the first to criticise them, but we managed to go to the International meeting and they're still offering this.

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    Amateurs definitely not allowed to ride at this years festival.
    Grassroot sports return on 29th March which is what they are categorized as.

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    Thanks for the heads up Darren. That'll change the look of the NH Chase now you'd think.

    There will be a few that will go there instead of the Ultima now you'd think.

    Also there might be a few that don't travel from Ireland now they won't have Codd, O'Connot, O'Neill, and James. Gordon and JP the big losers probably.

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    Unless some Amateurs turn pro very quickly Paul, didn't Angus Cheleda do exactly that?

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    I think a lot of amateurs will be examining the rulebook to see how quickly they can get back amateur status if they turn pro for a while....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggers1972 View Post
    Unless some Amateurs turn pro very quickly Paul, didn't Angus Cheleda do exactly that?
    But unless they all change and the race goes ahead with the same jockeys riding the respective mounts, those that put up a professional will have an advantage...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxbet View Post
    But unless they all change and the race goes ahead with the same jockeys riding the respective mounts, those that put up a professional will have an advantage...
    I was thinking the elite Amateurs, Jamie Codd, Derek O'Connor etc the ones as good (or better) as some professionals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggers1972 View Post
    I was thinking the elite Amateurs, Jamie Codd, Derek O'Connor etc the ones as good (or better) as some professionals.
    They would be better than 90% of the UK jocks there's no doubt about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlelad View Post
    I think a lot of amateurs will be examining the rulebook to see how quickly they can get back amateur status if they turn pro for a while....

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    They can go pro in a week, takes a few months to go back amateur, you can't ride more than 25 winners as a pro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggers1972 View Post
    I was thinking the elite Amateurs, Jamie Codd, Derek O'Connor etc the ones as good (or better) as some professionals.
    They're probably only slightly better than someone like Sam Waley-Cohen. They get to look better because they're the best amateurs and get mounts cherry-picked for them. Half the amateurs out there would win on the rides they get.

    David Maxwell would probably even win on one or two of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    They're probably only slightly better than someone like Sam Waley-Cohen. They get to look better because they're the best amateurs and get mounts cherry-picked for them. Half the amateurs out there would win on the rides they get.

    David Maxwell would probably even win on one or two of them.
    Only Jamie Codd would have won on that bumper mare a few years ago. Every other amateur would have got it beat.
    Last edited by Slim; 24th February 2021 at 4:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frontrunner View Post
    They would be better than 90% of the UK jocks there's no doubt about that.
    Agree 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Geezer View Post
    They can go pro in a week, takes a few months to go back amateur, you can't ride more than 25 winners as a pro.
    So Irish jockeys would have to sacrifice fairyhouse and punchestown in order to ride at Cheltenham.

    Not sure if many/any will do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggers1972 View Post
    Agree 100%
    Make up your mind, tiggers. 90% or 100%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Only Jamie Codd would have won on that bumper mare a few years ago. Every other amateur would have got it beat.
    Le Brueil as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    They're probably only slightly better than someone like Sam Waley-Cohen. They get to look better because they're the best amateurs and get mounts cherry-picked for them. Half the amateurs out there would win on the rides they get.

    David Maxwell would probably even win on one or two of them.
    Have a lie down...crazy statement Sam Waley

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    Sam Waley Cohen is boderlins useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Sam Waley Cohen is boderlins useless.
    What a stupid statement.

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    Picture today by Ben Hastie, Head Groundsman

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