Thanks LuckyMe, I read that earlier and my overriding feeling was that I'd prefer to be taking advice from the Only Fools & Horses' Rodders than the RP version.
Thanks LuckyMe, I read that earlier and my overriding feeling was that I'd prefer to be taking advice from the Only Fools & Horses' Rodders than the RP version.
Alcohol, because no good story ever started with "I was eating this salad..."
Couldn't agree more. You can go back over 20 years and it's rare to find a winner that didn't want further sooner rather than later. Altior and Douvan being the obvious exceptions.
Alcohol, because no good story ever started with "I was eating this salad..."
Monkfish will eat them alive...
Big Getaway is out for season
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
History says that more than half of them will get beat.
2 from 8 that were 3/1 or less turned over last season for example.
Of those I think barring a fall Shishkin, Envoi Allen, and Monkfish are rock solid, and I can find reasons to get the others beat, including Epatante who needs to return back to her best after Kempton.
Chacun would join them but he's injury prone and he's never been round Cheltenham. If he turns up I don't see any of the others beating him though.
I don't think I've ever said the three novice chase favourites are the most solid before.
This is worrying from Jessie in the RP and be interesting to know whether "...vets to pay to get all these forms done..." refers to per journey or per horse.
Jessica Harrington has criticised the "seriously annoying" level of extra paperwork involved in sending runners to Britain from Ireland in the aftermath of Brexit.
The Cheltenham Gold Cup-winning trainer has sent Grand National runner-up Magic Of Light over to compete in the Grade 2 Matchbook Betting Podcast Mares' Hurdle (1.15) at Ascot on Saturday.
Harrington, who will stay in Ireland rather than make the trip, says the new rules and regulations required for the transport of the mare have added €700 on top of the usual costs.
Last week Willie Mullins expressed concern over extra VAT charges on sending horses to Britain after Brexit, although his fears were eased as he sent Grangee to Market Rasen on Saturday without any extra charge being levied.
Speaking about the new process, Harrington told Sky Sports Racing: "We've got it organised, as far as I can tell. She is leaving here this afternoon and will be at Ascot at some point in the early afternoon.
"It's more the paperwork, that's the problem and what costs money. Before, we could just drive to the ferry, get on one end and off the other, and the only costs you had were the box, diesel and the lads you took.
"Now we have all this paperwork to do for the Department of Agriculture and vets to pay to get all these forms done. That's what is so seriously annoying.
"I knew this was going to happen because I know what it was like before we had the Tripartite Agreement and we were all in the EU."
Alcohol, because no good story ever started with "I was eating this salad..."
I would have thought horses coming over would be classed as temporary imports , and as coming to race and not for sale, could come in on a carnet so would be exempt from paying any import costs? It's a long time since I had to raise them but can't believe they cost that much? Time for negotiations for the same/similar type of tri agreement the UK/France and Germany had before Brexit for the movement of horses.
Vote Alfie!!!!
wilsonl (21st January 2021)
Yes they would need to travel under an ATA Carnet which are issued by the Chamber of Commerce in Ireland and is for all intents and purposes a guarantee in case the horse remians in the UK, I suspect the costs being referred to by Jessie Harrington is the Health Certificates needed for live animals coming back to the EU, I would imagine the UK have the same requirements coming in. A single Carnet can be used for multiple horses but a seperate health certificate is needed for each animal.
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Benie Des Dieux will go straight to Cheltenham with 0 prep run. Ruby no idea what race (probably just not saying)
"And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.
And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."
I think the reduced numbers is a very valid point and its hard to see any trainer sending over a horse just to have a runner at the festival, with the extra costs and more importantly the owners not having their day out, what it means of course is it should in theory make it somewhat easier to navigate the handicaps in particular.
Agree, which is why the 5/2 Britain winning the prestbury cup is appealing despite Ireland having plenty of shorties.
Alcohol, because no good story ever started with "I was eating this salad..."
Could have a big impact in the handicaps though.....
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That's right. Generally speaking you'd expect it to have little impact on the graded races but in the handicaps and to a lesser extent, those graded races, it's simple maths that the less Irish runners taking part in each race then the less chance of winning.
Whether that is significant enough to justify wading into Britain at 5/2 is questionable but I don't foresee the landslide the Irish had in 2020 and 5/2 is bigger than it should be. Plus we don't have the plethora of Irish trained odds on favs this year that we've often had in the past, when you consider of the two horses likely to go off odds on this year; one is British.
Alcohol, because no good story ever started with "I was eating this salad..."
Britain have 0 chance of winning. Id lay 3/1 any amount if i had the bank roll.