I'm really sweet on him. The cynic in me thought because of his hurdle rating they could get him absolutely fired in over fences too being tricky.Originally Posted by Maxbet
But watching back the AB that didn't make sense. There was no messing on chasing debut. From the from and an immaculate round of jumping. He could be very very good.
Last edited by Slim; 2nd December 2020 at 12:04 AM.
You don’t start at a Grade 1 track unless you have Grade 1 aspirations.
Wpm will keep Janidil and Asterion apart , one to Limerick the other Leopardstown.
Unexcepted will be campaigned with handicaps in mind later in season, a good jumper but his race in Tipp fell apart like Slim says. Not a G1 horse
I respectfully disagree with your view on the Tipperary race, RP.
It didn’t fall apart - Unexcepted pulled it apart.
Is he a Grade 1 horse? Maybe time will prove he isn’t, but it’s a bit early to be calling him nothing more than a handicapper, given he beat a 130-odd rated hurdler with his head in his chest.
Last edited by Grasshopper; 2nd December 2020 at 6:14 AM.
"Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".
SlimChance, March 2018
These two could be in the same race and they would keep apart...Asterion is dangerous, will kill himself or the jockey sooner or later....couldn't jump a hurdle, from what I saw in his sole chase, even going right-handed he managed to fly violently out to the right, landing almost on top of one fence...If you back this horse, make sure you're hiding behind the couch, with amplivox on!!
https://www.racingpost.com/news/late...pproval/461622
Diamond Geezer (2nd December 2020)
Mullins has at least 6 other novices who could be grade one performers between 2m and 2m5:
Blakbow, Elixir D'ainay, Energumene, Five O'Clock, Klassical Dream, The Big Getaway.
That's actually really tricky to work out. Imagine how long it will take Willie...
The Big Getaway - National Hunt chase a player?
Klassical Dream - Arkle or nothing
Energumene - National Hunt Chase but - could make a case for the 3 races
Elixir D'ainay - Arkle only?
Blackbow - Couldn't nail him down for a race
Five O'Clock - Marsh but would admit I'm guessing
The Big Getaway - NH Chase or RSA if he can win a G1 in advance
Klassical Dream - minimum trip but meh
Energumene - Definitely handles soft and i think a trip will suit
Elixir D'ainay - He ran pretty well against Albert Bartlett horses last year, ownes 2nd string if minuimum trip
Blackbow - tempermental bugger. He takes a lot out of himself. 2 miles choke out but a good horse for the powers if they skipped Chelt
Five O'Clock - I'd say this is the NH horse. need 3m minimum
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
Not sure how you conclude Five O'Clock is a boat. Made Assemble look slow who just tried do serve it up to Envoi Allen on Sunday. They are talking about the clock likes he's a Grade 1 animal. We shall see.
He has a preference for soft which is a good starting point and they said after he ran over 2m 4 at Limerick that he needed another mile
3m minimum
Last edited by granger; 3rd December 2020 at 8:22 AM.
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
I thought he was very unlucky in the Martin Pipe, almost on the floor, all sorts of scrimmaging..then sluiced through the field at the death!
Should have a better idea soon enough. Five O'Clock is entered over 2m and 2m4f this weekend, and holds entries over 2m4f and 3m at Christmas.
"Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".
SlimChance, March 2018
I watched Five O'clock's races back from last season yesterday evening and I don't think you'd want to be going back in trip with him.
He got two and a half easily, and was finishing as though he could go round again. On what I watched, I would assume over fences he either joins Monkfish in the RSA, or if Willie and Ricci want to keep them apart he steps up in trip for the NH Chase.
I watched Five O'clock's races back from last season yesterday evening and I don't think you'd want to be going back in trip with him.
He got two and a half easily, and was finishing as though he could go round again. On what I watched, I would assume over fences he either joins Monkfish in the RSA, or if Willie and Ricci want to keep them apart he steps up in trip for the NH Chase.
This is Willie though, so he's just as likely to run at Royal Ascot!!!
Maxbet (3rd December 2020)
Cokoriko by Robin Des Champ out of a Kapgarde mare.....8 miler
Dosage suggests 6 and a quarter
Last edited by Maxbet; 3rd December 2020 at 3:50 PM.
Yes precisely Max. That's why I backed him for the NH Chase rather than any race. He surely goes that way.
NH chase being shorter may well attract a better type horse this year
All being well, I am sure Ricci would be happy to have 1 in each
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
Ricci has only ran Point Alexandre in the NHC. I could be completely wrong but I think this horse will be far too good to run in the lets beat a novice to death Grade 2.
Surely Galvin is as good as past the post in the NH Chase?
Illegitimi non carborundum
It's necessary to go through the motions of mentioning every good novice might run in the race before deciding Galvin just wins.
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