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    Quote Originally Posted by jinnyj View Post
    Definite future Group horse there as I suspected.
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    Great call and nice SP

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    thdsnks V also doubled her with Wichit.

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    That was a belting race!
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

    This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.

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    I must admit I thought Moore got to dictate the sections to suit himself and that PP had blown his chances at the off so he's done very well to come round the entire field from last place. I thought Buick was quite easy on Pinatubo late in the race. It will be interesting to hear if he says it didn't stay.
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    I'd look to drop Pinatubo back in trip, but I'd go up in trip with quadrilateral.

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    Yet another brilliant interview with Gosden.
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    Great finish even if DofD just failed to get up. The winner is most progressive and has some backside on him. Nice to see Kevin Scott ride his first winner there. Clearly meant so much to him.
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    Ouch Summerghand.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

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    Quote Originally Posted by simmo View Post
    I'd look to drop Pinatubo back in trip, but I'd go up in trip with quadrilateral.
    Poor pace (slower than the 3yo in the Coronation), and the Coolmore 'pacesetters' bombed and finished last 2. Suited Pinatubo, but can't ever see him winning a truly run Im Gp1
    Last edited by reet hard; 20th June 2020 at 6:14 PM. Reason: edited to make sense,doh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankel View Post
    Ouch Summerghand.
    Very unlucky. There were two races and was a clear winner of his. Would probably have won readily if he was on the other side. The chances are the handicapper will only put him up about 5lbs so he should be competitive in either the Stewards' Cup or the Ayr Gold Cup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    Very unlucky. There were two races and was a clear winner of his. Would probably have won readily if he was on the other side. The chances are the handicapper will only put him up about 5lbs so he should be competitive in either the Stewards' Cup or the Ayr Gold Cup.
    They will be gutted as certainly one that got away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reet hard View Post
    Poor pace (slower than the 3yo in the Coronation), and the Coolmore 'pacesetters' bombed and finished last 2. Suited Pinatubo, but can't ever see him winning a truly run Im Gp1
    Harsh comments (Weaver) on the ride (Buick) given how the race unfolded.

    Siskin/Pinatubo at Goodwood would be tasty.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankel View Post
    Harsh comments (Weaver) on the ride (Buick) given how the race unfolded.

    Siskin/Pinatubo at Goodwood would be tasty.
    Judged on Saturday's sectionals;
    https://www.attheraces.com/racecard/...June-2020/1500

    Palace Pier would eat them both alive.
    Last edited by reet hard; 21st June 2020 at 7:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reet hard View Post
    Judged on Saturday's sectionals;
    https://www.attheraces.com/racecard/...June-2020/1500

    Palace Pier would eat them both alive.
    I was in the Palace Pier camp for this race but wouldn't be so sure at Goodwood with that different test.
    Deauville for Palace Pier next and think Gosden may have mentioned that aswell.

    Pinatubo at Goodwood must have a good chance but Siskin awaits!
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

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    I was in that camp too, l think both Pinatubo and witchita only barely get a mile drop in trip could see them to better effect


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    Quote Originally Posted by baldeagle View Post
    I was in that camp too, l think both Pinatubo and witchita only barely get a mile drop in trip could see them to better effect


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    Precisely, Bald Eagle- Palace Pier does, and quickens, and against much superior opposition than Siskin has managed thus far. Likely improver, too.
    Last edited by reet hard; 21st June 2020 at 11:14 AM.

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    I think you have to drop Pinatubo back to 7f. He just doesn't get 8f if there are undulations in the ground. I imagine he will see out the trip well at Goodwood over the mile, but I'd certainly look to drop him back to 7f.

    Not quite sure what I'd do with Quadrilateral, step her up to 1m 2f and see how she goes, but she certainly seems to lack the toe for the mile. Obviously Frankel won over 10f a couple of times, but her immediate pedigree suggests she should see a mile out well, but is she maybe not quite as good at 3 as she was at 2.

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    That Coventry Stakes winner owned by Eugene O'Sullivan's sister.
    Between Foxhunters Chase at 66/1 ad Coventry at 150/1 they are having some year for small punting money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgt View Post
    That Coventry Stakes winner owned by Eugene O'Sullivan's sister.
    Between Foxhunters Chase at 66/1 ad Coventry at 150/1 they are having some year for small punting money.
    That's mad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reet hard View Post
    Poor pace (slower than the 3yo in the Coronation), and the Coolmore 'pacesetters' bombed and finished last 2. Suited Pinatubo, but can't ever see him winning a truly run Im Gp1
    SR's take on the sectionals for the SJP (Which pretty much confirm my view) though SR (conveniently) skirts around the issue of Pinatubo's stamina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reet hard View Post
    SR's take on the sectionals for the SJP (Which pretty much confirm my view) though SR (conveniently) skirts around the issue of Pinatubo's stamina.
    The sectionals back up the optics of the race. Seems clear to most what type of test he wants.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

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