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    In the greater scheme of things, what does it all matter?
    The guy hardly saw the journey as a jaunt, and its gravity is being judged by peoples' political persuasion.
    Nobody died, and the whole issue has been blown out of all proportion, imo.
    Storm in a teacup; and nothing more.

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    There will also be fallout up here over the resignation of Douglass Ross.

    I cringed when I heard his remarks about integrity. This from one of the most corrupt refereeing officials in Scottish football?
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    It's been suggested to me privately that I should ask for information about Matthew Elliott. Does anyone have any 'dirt' on him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by reet hard View Post
    In the greater scheme of things, what does it all matter?
    The guy hardly saw the journey as a jaunt, and its gravity is being judged by peoples' political persuasion.
    Nobody died, and the whole issue has been blown out of all proportion, imo.
    Storm in a teacup; and nothing more.
    I agree with this point in relation to the journey, with the exception of 'nobody died.' That is unproven.

    What the affair does do is open up a window to the soul of executive competence in Government. And so far that looks like it is a DC puppet show and a disinterested and incompetent PM. I might be wrong in this, time will tell, but the scoresheet currently is about 0-60K.

    Regarding memory of phone calls. Looking at Mr. Johnson on his increasinlgy infrequent public appearances, I would say he wakes up many mornings with little memory of the night before.
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    I personally think how he is using his child, autistic or not, as political cover to do whatever he wanted would normally disgust reasonable people.

    Who knew before the election that the new government would be chock-ful of liars and those without any spine to stand up to liars, who view rules what the plebs have to abide by. UK is getting what it deserves and will be forgotten about in 4.5 years time by the time Cummings media buddies have their way with you.

    Ultimately Cummings knows too much about Boris and Brexit for him ever to resign. Boris will continue to stand by him because it is less damaging to him and the conservative party than risk Cummings disclosing what he knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkWing View Post
    UK is getting what it deserves
    I don't think that's fair but I see where you're coming from. As a nation, we voted in the Conservatives but plenty of us didn't vote for them, especially here in Scotland. I've said privately that I have no sympathy for people in the former Labour heartlands in northern England and Wales who voted Conservative, who buy Tory rags and are taken in by the Tories' empty rhetoric and promises, that they get what they deserve but we're all being made to suffer.

    Mrs O said last year that the election of BJ was going to cost lives but she's sick at how true that prediction has turned out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reet hard View Post
    In the greater scheme of things, what does it all matter?
    The guy hardly saw the journey as a jaunt, and its gravity is being judged by peoples' political persuasion.
    Nobody died, and the whole issue has been blown out of all proportion, imo.
    Storm in a teacup; and nothing more.
    and meanwhile Israel in annexing the West bank and not a headline is being written about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warbler View Post
    We got an insight only a few months ago when Cummings wanted more control of the Treasury's advisors

    Johnson had to choose between Cummings and his Chancellor. He chose Cummings! and Sajid Javed resigned

    This should be a seriously salutary lesson to everyone in Johnson's cabinet and the parliamentary conservative party. When a PM values his special advisor above his political allies and those who serve, then every single one of them is a diminished person of lesser authority and standing. Any single one of them can be dismissed if Cummings deems that he doesn't like the way they operate
    Clinton used Dick Morris, it's not that unusual.

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    The parents are people with full time professional jobs. I presume this means they have ample child care available when they are working and socialising or needing opticians appointments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    I don't think that's fair but I see where you're coming from. As a nation, we voted in the Conservatives but plenty of us didn't vote for them, especially here in Scotland. I've said privately that I have no sympathy for people in the former Labour heartlands in northern England and Wales who voted Conservative, who buy Tory rags and are taken in by the Tories' empty rhetoric and promises, that they get what they deserve but we're all being made to suffer.

    Mrs O said last year that the election of BJ was going to cost lives but she's sick at how true that prediction has turned out.
    Unfortunately, not enough voted against the policies. It's what you chose. Scotland did choose to stick with the Union. There are still people who believe Cummings isn't lying. If lying works so successfully, why stop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkWing View Post
    Unfortunately, not enough voted against the policies. It's what you chose. Scotland did choose to stick with the Union. There are still people who believe Cummings isn't lying. If lying works so successfully, why stop?
    All true, I admit, and I voted against independence as I don't believe the Scottish economy is strong enough just yet to stand on its own and I don't believe there is enough political acumen in Scotland's politicians.

    The word I'm hearing (don't know how true it is, I should stress) is that wee Nicola plans to stand down within the next year or so and that the SNP has lost its focus in general to internal feminism with NS at the heart of it.

    Sadly, UK politics doesn't seem to be any better off for political acumen.

    Then again, are any other countries any better off?
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    It`s all very reminiscent of Rees-Moggys comments on the Grenfell victims....anybody with common sense would have ignored the official fire brigade advice and made their own way out. So, family in danger of catching coronavirus and living in high risk London instinctively do a runner to nice, rural bolt hole hundreds of miles away...it`s called being good parents, I believe. You only need a cursory knowledge of Johnson and Cummins to know that lying and treating us lower mortals with contempt has got them into the positions they are in. But, of course, it`s just a storm in a teacup...tell that to the hundreds of thousands of family and friends of the needlessly bereaved. And the millions who are suffering in this terrible time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desperate Dan View Post
    It`s all very reminiscent of Rees-Moggys comments on the Grenfell victims....anybody with common sense would have ignored the official fire brigade advice and made their own way out. So, family in danger of catching coronavirus and living in high risk London instinctively do a runner to nice, rural bolt hole hundreds of miles away...it`s called being good parents, I believe. You only need a cursory knowledge of Johnson and Cummins to know that lying and treating us lower mortals with contempt has got them into the positions they are in. But, of course, it`s just a storm in a teacup...tell that to the hundreds of thousands of family and friends of the needlessly bereaved. And the millions who are suffering in this terrible time.
    As OTT posts go, this qualifies as the most over-dramatic response I've ever seen on this forum.
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    It's good to see Tory MPs and right wing supporters in general (seemingly aside from those on here) standing up and saying what is right here, not just left wingers looking to score points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reet hard View Post
    As OTT posts go, this qualifies as the most over-dramatic response I've ever seen on this forum.
    Congratuulations!
    Yeah, if you dont think about things at all, there is really no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simmo View Post
    It's good to see Tory MPs and right wing supporters in general (seemingly aside from those on here) standing up and saying what is right here, not just left wingers looking to score points.
    I think in this era, its not about clarity or honesty, its providing your supporters an argument on which to hang their hats, no matter how ridiculous. Buy yourself a few thousand bots and let the cycle continue.

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    No one cared that Churchill cowardly left London before bombing raids because not every little thing was politicised.
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    And does anybody believe that Johnson and Cummings were so ill when they had a meeting that neither can remember what they said!! You couldn`t make it up...well, perhaps you could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    No one cared that Churchill cowardly left London before bombing raids because not every little thing was politicised.
    That would be because he didn't. In fact he's famous for working on regardless.

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