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    Pentland Hills definitely the horse to take out of yesterday's race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggers1972 View Post
    Pentland Hills definitely the horse to take out of yesterday's race.
    Not sure i'd take anything out of it

    Given the lack of market interest, at a push i'd say Elixir maybe but none of the principals enhanced their claims
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesRB View Post
    it's a god awful 2m hurdle division

    DO THE RIGHT THING HENRY
    Won't be out again until Feb.

    Reading between the lines

    If she runs at Gowran it's the mares route

    If leopardstown then the champ is possible
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Klassical Dream should possibly have jumped a fence but he has been too disappointing this year to be true

    One thing he is missing this year is his pilot

    Not PT bashing at all but the secret is out now on how to beat KD

    They must be tempted with Honeysuckle
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Klassical Dream should possibly have jumped a fence but he has been too disappointing this year to be true

    One thing he is missing this year is his pilot

    Not PT bashing at all but the secret is out now on how to beat KD

    They must be tempted with Honeysuckle
    Think judging by how he jumped the 5th last, he had the same thoughts!

    He has been very disappointing. Given the way he hosed up at Cheltenham in the Supreme, I for one thought he would be a very solid CH contender this year.

    The 2020 renewal of the CH looks worse with every day that goes by!

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    Buveir mending well but still ruled out for the season (the last I read).

    What a shame.

    He would win 9/10 renewals against this lot.

    I will have to soon start looking at where the each way value is in this race.

    When is Cornerstone Lad out again?
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    Maybe the Supreme form just isn’t that good?

    Think Sharjah was primed for this race anyway, was shortening massive all night. I backed him and got absolutely screwed by the rule 4. Why Apples Jade was still in the market I don’t know, then Darasso withdrawn.

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    Crazy this I know, and for the prices I’m seeing I won’t be gambling.

    Seen this suggestion on Twitter. I laughed then thought about it again, and I don’t think it’s as crazy as it seems when i first looked.

    I bring you a Champion Hurdle each way shout, one from way outside the box.

    Not So Sleepy.

    I’m hoping I’m being not so stupid for looking through his form tonight as my plans. I first thought Coral Cup or County. But in order to win a County you have to be basically a fringe Champion Hurdle horse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double J View Post
    Maybe the Supreme form just isn’t that good?

    Think Sharjah was primed for this race anyway, was shortening massive all night. I backed him and got absolutely screwed by the rule 4. Why Apples Jade was still in the market I don’t know, then Darasso withdrawn.
    I did wonder that myself, but with the likes of Fakir D'oudairies and Angels Breath in behind that day, i wonder how much credence you can give that theory. Of course, there is a huge chance that both the fore-mentioned have improved significantly since, especially Fakir.

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    No entry for Saldier in the Irish Champion Hurdle. It doesn't look good for him making Cheltenham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chroniclandlord View Post
    No entry for Saldier in the Irish Champion Hurdle. It doesn't look good for him making Cheltenham.
    And Elliot only has 3 Entries - Apples Jade, Abacadabras and Envoi Allen!

    With Apples, I'd have thought going up to 3m was more likely these day, but I suppose she deserves at least a chance to defend her crown.

    But with no Couer Sublime or Felix Desjy even entered, and If Apples maybe doesn't make it, is it actually a real possibility that Envoi Allen could take this in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chroniclandlord View Post
    No entry for Saldier in the Irish Champion Hurdle. It doesn't look good for him making Cheltenham.
    Patrick Mullins has said on Lydia Hislops show he’s in great form at home and will most likely go straight to Cheltenham. As would Klassical Dream ground dependant.

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    Cornerstone Lad out on Saturday.

    He shouldn't be underestimated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marb View Post
    Cornerstone Lad out on Saturday.

    He shouldn't be underestimated.
    Thinking of dutching him with Ballyandy. Pentland Hills is too short and I wanna say that Call me Lord was advantaged by having the stand side rail to run against at Cheltenham and won't have that at Haydock. But I remember this race a few years back

    https://www.racingpost.com/results/2...6-11-19/661139

    they came standside that day. Mmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    Thinking of dutching him with Ballyandy. Pentland Hills is too short and I wanna say that Call me Lord was advantaged by having the stand side rail to run against at Cheltenham and won't have that at Haydock. But I remember this race a few years back

    https://www.racingpost.com/results/2...6-11-19/661139

    they came standside that day. Mmmm
    Pentland Hills 6/4 Vs Call me Lord 4/1 - tells me that CML won't run.
    Also, it's going to be proper heavy winter ground on Sat - CML wouldn't appreciate that.
    I think Cornerstone Lad and Ballyandy are highly likely to both run, so taking the prices on these 2 now is the smart play imo.

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    Yeah I'd like to see a smaller trainer like Micky Hammond have a really good hurdler.

    No disrespect to the Hendersons and Nicholls of the world, but every so often a smaller trainer needs to break through with the right horse.

    The fact Cornerstone Lad has won and placed in a few handicap hurdles shouldn't be used to diminish his chances. It's made him tough.
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    Looking at the weekends racing and the pricing, Darrasso is currently 33/1 NRNB for this race. Should he come close at the weekend, which I feel he could and will be backing, 33/1 looks a steal and could go very short in the market.

    If he runs a stinker he doesn’t go. Best value I can find at the moment.

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    Re Klassical Dream. Can we not just say that last year's supreme (and novices) was terrible and forget about it, and Klassical Dream as a Grade 1 hurdler.

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    Klassical Dream entered in the Stayers Hurdle as well today
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