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    Biggest racing news of the year/decade??


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    If this is true, US horses must be banned from running overseas until a full an thorough investigation has taken place. And also if you were Coolmore or Godolphin would you want to run your top horses over there in their big races knowing a blind eye will be turned if the home team cheat. Losing unfairly in this way has the potential for a significant negative impact on future breeding revenues for the overseas raiders.

    Also what difference would it have made to the horses that finished second to Justify in the Triple Crown races. How much have their owners been cheated out of in prize money and future breeding revenues.

    And don't forget Justify himself has claim to be the only unbeaten Triple Crown winner ever, which will have put some significant millions on to his stud value and into the pockets of those that have the breeding rights. Given the article you would assume that some very high profile people should be very nervous right now, because if true some big names are going to fall very heavily.

    Just imagine what would happen over here if similar evidence was coming out that Frankel won his races after being doped and officials were turning a blind eye. Racing would never recover its credibility.

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    There's more than a fair chance many horses here are doped outside of training.
    Two's company, three's allowed.

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    Does not surprise me one little bit. Dollars Rule!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    There's more than a fair chance many horses here are doped outside of training.
    Probably true in most Countries to some degree, and whilst not right and something that could be policed better, what we're talking about here is very different. The accusation here is that Justify tested positive for a known and banned performance enhancer, and that it was covered up by the racing authorities. It also transpires that key figures of influence at the authority have links to the Baffert stable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maruco View Post
    Probably true in most Countries to some degree, and whilst not right and something that could be policed better, what we're talking about here is very different. The accusation here is that Justify tested positive for a known and banned performance enhancer, and that it was covered up by the racing authorities. It also transpires that key figures of influence at the authority have links to the Baffert stable.
    I agree we're not comparing apples here, Maruco. It wasn't my intention to suggest that we were.

    But corruption, as we all know, isn't linked to just one sport, or one country or one governing authority.
    Two's company, three's allowed.

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    That could be the end of US horse racing.
    I remember as a boy reading when Dancer's Image was disqualified in Kentucky Derby 1968 for failing a drug test the onwer spent until late 1973 trying to reverse the verdict.
    US Racing are having huge trouble with racehorse fractures all year that has seen race course closures and the suspension of Jerry Hollendorfer's licence in California over the death of four horses .
    The big Monmouth race was delayed a few hours during the heat wave at the request of the State Governor , public opinion stateside is anti racing and this won't help one bit.
    Ten years from now it will be no surprise to me if Talking Horses will be a virtual racing forum or a memory bank for old lads like myself to recall the good old days.
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    I have one for Portman park later. I'll tell you about it when I get on.
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    It doesn’t surprise me one little bit. And it’s very, very wrong in my opinion. Both the administration of illegal substances and the subsequent cover-up.

    And yes things do go on over here whilst training, that much I’m pretty certain of. And as I have said before, one particular US trainer who enjoys considerable success in this country particularly at Royal Ascot definitely does so with chemically enhanced animals.
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    Any idea what those chemicals are? Think I could use some, sorry, coat!
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    Aren't they're more lax in the usa re drugs in racing anyway i.e. the use lasix.
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