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    Yes, they look 'socialist' if that list is the only agenda.

    You probably know I'm rabid anti-right-wing but while never an extreme leftist, I've always wanted the 'fairest-for-all' in my political outlook.

    I'm among the minority who support raising taxes in order to help reduce poverty and improve services. I support re-nationalisation of the railways, post office, telecommunications and energy.

    So, I am a very infrequent reader of the likes of the Telegraph and would normally not agree with much in it. However, this snippet struck a chord with me:

    If you’d like to know a little about life under the SNP, tune into West Sound Radio sometime. It’s the station that I grew up with on the west of Scotland, and to which I still listen sometimes, on Sunday mornings, for that little bit of hometown connection. The programmes themselves are fine. It’s the news and adverts in between that would make English centre-Right hair curl. The preaching on how to live your life is relentlessness. And this is life under an SNP government: it really does know best, knows that it knows best, and if you don’t agree that it knows best, will spend your money to tell you it knows best.
    They also want to control the media in Scotland, dilute education to the point that no-one sees through what they're up to and, for me, the real danger is what happens when they eventually have the absolute power that Sturgeon craves?

    The list, though, is part of their UK manifesto. They know they have no chance of making any impact on UK politics so they can put out the most socio-friendly soundbites you'll see anywhere as they'll never have to fulfil them.
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    Fair enough - we'll have a to agree to disagree on the subject - for me they are a great left wing alternative to Labour and I think that the English would probably love to have something of their like to vote for.

    I'm not worried about them getting too big for their boots - this country has a habit of bringing such folk down to size readily enough.

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    Don;t see ali gupter moving to scotland anytime soon!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Don;t see ali gupter moving to scotland anytime soon!!
    I was brought up to believe Geordies were just Scotsmen with their heads bashed in, so he's a fair way there already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simmo View Post
    I'm not worried about them getting too big for their boots - this country has a habit of bringing such folk down to size readily enough.
    That's actually an angle I hadn't considered!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    No doubt in cohorts with the US we will become the 51st state once we leave the EU,Trump must be loving it and even being condoned on the thread unbelievable shoving more unregulated capitalism up our arses and now even making sure the country votes a certain way,lots of very dumb people in this country and they can't even see it...being played like a fiddle..Althoigh lots fro the right libertarian filth know exactky what they are doing,utter scum...
    Yeah I've done sone work with Liberty before. They've got their ear to the ground on mass survellance. Edward Snowden, who exposed the American spy agencies is a supporter of them. If anyone feels like donating to them its a worthy cause.

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    Another little beauty today from johnson asked why he said ''Why did you call muslim women letterboxes'' replys after some blubbering britsh people want politicians to say what they mean,the tory audience applauds ffs who are these utter morons!
    This is then followed up by Bim afolami tory MP saying anne widdicombes remarks on gay people free speech,we should have the ''arguement'' these people live in a different century,with clare rancid fox nodding in agreement surprise surprise yes we need free speech on a discussion about wehther science could intervene in the future to ''cure'' people of being gay,these people are absolute nutjobs..
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    Quote Originally Posted by simmo View Post
    I was brought up to believe Geordies were just Scotsmen with their heads bashed in, so he's a fair way there already.
    Funnily enough I'm actually half Scottish and have always quite fancied 'retiring' in Scotland.

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    Why did you call Muslim women letterboxes?”
    Boris Johnson: “The public feels alienated from us all as a breed of politicians because too often they feel we are muffling and veiling our language."
    Audience applauds..

    This is what he said today kicking off campaign when questioned by beth rgby,just unbelievable outright bigotry and no one says a word gets applauded by tories,ffs this man is a ******* half witted menace a mini donald trump just saying any old **** intermingled with bigotry and racism...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigilo View Post
    Why did you call Muslim women letterboxes?”
    Boris Johnson: “The public feels alienated from us all as a breed of politicians because too often they feel we are muffling and veiling our language."
    Audience applauds..

    This is what he said today kicking off campaign when questioned by beth rgby,just unbelievable outright bigotry and no one says a word gets applauded by tories,ffs this man is a ******* half witted menace a mini donald trump just saying any old **** intermingled with bigotry and racism...
    Is it true that Beth was boo'd by Johnsons supporters when she asked the question?

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    Yes, she was. Don`t you despair at the calibre of our MP`s? Clowns and fools who now look like electing one in their own image and likeness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desperate Dan View Post
    Yes, she was. Don`t you despair at the calibre of our MP`s? Clowns and fools who now look like electing one in their own image and likeness.
    Despair doesn't come close to it....

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    The ERG crew increasingly remind me of the cast of One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest. Terrifying to think how much influence they have.

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    If anyone's been watching Summer of Rockets that made me think of the ERG also. I actually find their name quite chilling; something of the 1984's about it....

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    This country is absolutely pathetic johnson avoids doing debates with the public on channel 4 as would get slaughtered as he has as much knowledge as a goldfish,then tomorrow gets to speak on The Brexit Broadcasting Company have no public just set questions,doesn't take a genius to see which way that's going to go so transparent getting an easy time while talking ****..Then we have the other fuckwit from the US tweeting about Sadiq khan,saying he should be got rid because of knife crime,this moron has 40,000 homicides a year on his watch it's all so transparent what's going on,already discussed the mike pompeo stopping labour while discussing this with jewish business then we get all this other US garbage being shoved down our throats..On top of that we have the Iran issue,corbyn says the sensible thing about not getting invoved or advocating america but no of course corbyns in the wrong and we must back the US saus glassy eyed jeremy ****,absolutely pathetic **** america,they are so corrupt and devious and we the 51st state sucking off the koch brothers..and kissing trumps exceptionaly big fat arse..

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    What on earth is the point of holding TV debates - or any other public debates for that matter - to discuss a race whose two runners are to be decided by 313 conservative MPs and the winner chosen by 100,000 or so conservative party members?

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    Knowing how devious the BBC are it's just to boost jihnsons profile and the only ''alternative,will be worse than question time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drone View Post
    What on earth is the point of holding TV debates - or any other public debates for that matter - to discuss a race whose two runners are to be decided by 313 conservative MPs and the winner chosen by 100,000 or so conservative party members?
    Would not some Conservative party members be interested in a public or TV debate? Surely on such an important issue most serious minded people would want to fully consider both candidates policies and views.
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    Channel 4, to their credit decided not to play by Boris's rules but treat him as an equal to the rest and he decided to boycott them knowing it massively devalues tonight's show.

    So we're now in Trumpland where you have politicians being mini-dictators, only speaking to their chosen friends in the media who give them good press and shout Fake News at the rest who dare to criticise The Brexit Broadcasting Company won't even give him a chance to reveal his stupidity..

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    Emily Maitlis will give Johnson a hard time, and expect Stewart to go for the jugular, too. If there is any whiff that Stewart is more likely to win an election than Johnson, MPs and the membership will ditch the latter in favour of the former. Stewart was easily the most impressive in the debate last night, but he may have to wait his turn, as he is saddled with the "remainer" tag. I wrote a speech for him once, and he said it was "good" - he's my favourite politician of all time!

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