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    Presenting Percy

    No point going over the form and not wanting to be trapped into the David Hirst syndrome - a player who gets better the more absent he is - but isn't he a class or two above these. Fitness issues etc, being prepared for 6 weeks time, hurdles rather than fences etc etc. Isn't he just a lot better than the vast majority of the opposition who appear to be lights of their former selves. It takes a larger leap of faith that one of the french dark horses will improve past him, yet they are the only real opposition. 7/4 is generous in my book. 5/4-11/10 would be about right to me.

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    Disagree. I don't know what horse will beat him, but for me he is a win lay today. I think he will be handled very sympathetically.
    "And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.

    And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."

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    I agree that he will be handled sympathetically, and will need the rust knocked off him, but I'm betting that he will be 5 weeks away from the very best condition he will ever be in. That to me will be enough to outclass these.

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    Well done HW. Your judgement was way better than mine.
    "And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.

    And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."

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    Some of us look like Brad Pitt, some of us can guess how fit Pat Kelly would need his horse to be 6 weeks before cheltenham.

    Like how he pricked his ears coming to the last. If he blew up in that, it will take a decent horse to beat him in the Gold Cup. Remembering back to how Russell and Kelly were calling the handicapper a disgrace for the rating discrepancy before the Pertemps. They knew what they had on their hands then.

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    Best I have ever seen
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Big statement PJ but Davy really wants that horse to do good for "the small man" that is the basis of Irish Racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgt View Post
    Big statement PJ but Davy really wants that horse to do good for "the small man" that is the basis of Irish Racing.
    It was largely in jest Ed, he has to prove it on the big day but there is a hell of a lot to like about him and his story

    Irish jumps is in bad need of a story like this having a happy ending
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkWing View Post
    Some of us look like Brad Pitt,
    The prevailing view leans more towards Colin Farrell, but if the lighting is low enough, I can see what you mean.
    Last edited by an capall; 24th January 2019 at 6:02 PM.
    "And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.

    And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."

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    Did anybody hear a rumour that PP has been bought by Giggi and is moving to G Elliot??
    Last edited by an capall; 24th January 2019 at 6:03 PM.
    "And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.

    And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."

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    Quote Originally Posted by an capall View Post
    Did anybody hear a rumour that PP has been bought by Giggi and is moving to G Elliot??
    Sounds more like something JP would do
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by an capall View Post
    The prevailing view leans more towards Colin Farrell, but if the lighting is low enough, I can see what you mean.
    Disappointed in myself, to be fair

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    Absolutely nothing to dislike about it but all Percy has done today is to run to a little below his hurdle rating. I thought that Davy was more downbeat than usual post race.

    To put it in perspective, he is officially joint fifth rated (with 3 others) of the likely Gold Cup runners and barely gets in the Timeform top ten.
    Last edited by archie; 24th January 2019 at 7:49 PM.
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    Funny, one thing I thought about PP coming home today is how his connections campaigns have ensured he has started a lot bigger (oddswise) than his talent has merited. He has probably been fully tuned twice/three times in his life and has got away with it (mostly). it is a gamble that it will happen in March but I wouldnt be too interested in a match bet at Evens against very many of those ahead of him in the ratings.

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    It's not really fair to compare his mark, mostly earned as a novice, with the established chasers but he is a year older than many of the other novices and there's a chance that he has less improvement in him. His hurdle run today was only a few pounds better than the one last year and 5/2 for the Gold Cup is a bit cheeky. It may look good after the Red Mills but not yet.

    Whatever the arguments about price and proven ability, there can be no doubt that he's good for the game because the public have latched on to him.
    The older I get the better I was.

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    On the days that mattered PP has been head and shoulders the best horse on the day, never looking likely to lose.
    if they manage to pull it off again, it will be so magical that Brexit won't matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgt View Post
    On the days that mattered PP has been head and shoulders the best horse on the day, never looking likely to lose.?
    if they manage to pull it off again, it will be so magical that Brexit won't matter
    That's a good point

    Last year's RSA was good and he cruised it

    Be some scenes if Kelly trains a good cup winner and poor Willie cant
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Leopardstown Gold Cup day 1997 when Danoli won was the last time there was such excitement/anticipation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgt View Post
    Leopardstown Gold Cup day 1997 when Danoli won was the last time there was such excitement/anticipation.
    Flemenstar and Beef or Salmon were along similar lines
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Noel Meade says today that Tout Est Permis was a couple of gallops short last time out and should be spot on for the Gold Cup.

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    "And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.

    And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."

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