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    2019 Grand National (thread now includes entries)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    They might leave it until quite late to see if Impulsive Star makes it.
    Didn't they buy one the night before the race a couple of years ago? Are there any rules on changing owners when declared for a race?

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    23 GN entries entered in the GN Trial at Haydock Park Sat Feb 16th

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    Not sure about the Nash, but backed wakanda & Ballydine for the Peter Marsh, the latter bigger bet@ 16s was cruising thru the race until a mistake 2 r 3 out sent him back a few places but fought well to pull back to 3rd and still gaining. Backed it 14s on this AP

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    Racing Post ratings handicapper Sam Walker has had a go at predicting the GN weights

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    I've taken another nibble at Noble Endeavor at 50/1 ew with 5 places on offer with B365.

    I see he's still in the Denman this weekend and still holds an entry in the Gold Cup. He could be a Rough Quest/Miinnehoma type: run a nice race in the Gold Cup to get him ready.

    My thinking was simply that I'm off to Spain later this week and if NE ran well in the Denman he might shorten up again but it's just this second dawned on me that the weights aren't out until next week so they won't be wanting to blow his cover at Newbury. An easy jog round to get his mark down an extra pound or two maybe...
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    One For Arthur cannot run in the Trial this weekend as under the new conditions applied to declarations, i.e not having been vaccinated within the past six months, he is not eligible.
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    Just looking down that list it strikes me as we could potentially have the highest quality National that I can remember.

    Also Bristol De Mai running or not changes the shape of race significantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maruco View Post
    Just looking down that list it strikes me as we could potentially have the highest quality National that I can remember.

    Also Bristol De Mai running or not changes the shape of race significantly.
    You might well be right Maruco.

    I appear not to have saved the original weights document from last year but at the mid-March declaration stage number 20 on the list of weights was OR 150 and everything below that was lower.

    At this stage - possibly not truly comparable - OR 150 is #41 in the list.
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    Skybet going NRNB & BOG & 5 places (but only 1/5 the odds).
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    [QUOTE=Desert Orchid;716757
    I appear not to have saved the original weights document from last year
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    Does this help ?

    https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/...weights/142894

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    I've looked at a few races today from different angles. Obviously pace may be an issue but I don't think Tiger Roll would look out of place in a Gold Cup. If he runs good races at the festival and National again, could they be tempted to go there in 2020. I'd certainly be tempted.

    I've added him to my national portfolio. Wins the Cross Country which he should, you don't get these prices around for him now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Geezer View Post

    Yes, thanks, DG.

    It shows the last of the entries with an OR of 150 was #31 in the weights. So it looks like there are more 150+ entries this time around, backing up Maruco's initial feeling.
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    I dont know whether Its because I get more open minded as i get older but well it goes a little like this.

    When you first see a National you think what a complete and utter lottery.

    Then you learn a little about horse racing and you start saying things like " it's actually one of the easiest races to pick the winner of " and gems like " well it's quite easy to narrow the field down."

    Then after a certain number of years experience you go full circle .."what a complete and utter lottery this race is" haha.

    Certainly looks plenty I could make a case for amongst that lot. I hold one small antepost voucher thus far on Step Back. God bless the Bradstocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Then you learn a little about horse racing and you start saying things like " it's actually one of the easiest races to pick the winner of " and gems like " well it's quite easy to narrow the field down."

    Then after a certain number of years experience you go full circle .."what a complete and utter lottery this race is" haha.
    I haven't come full circle yet

    I was actually saying to Mrs O the other evening as we wallowed in the dying rays of the Mediterranean sunshine with a nice Rioja that I wondered if this year was going to be "a Ben Nevis year". In my final year as a student I told everybody who would listen to me that Ben Nevis would win the National and to put whatever was left of their grant on it. IIRC, it went off 12/1 fav and was brought down. The following year it won by miles at 40/1.

    I told everyone who would listen last year that Noble Endeavor and UTPT were the only ones to think about seriously only for neither to make it to the race.

    I know I'll end up with bits and pieces on a dozen along the way this year but now that UTPT is out I really can't see past NE.

    If it gets there...
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    Looks to have more than a fair shout D.O. I was just expressing to my Mrs as I scraped her car windows through the complete and utter frostbitten cold darkness of this fine February morn, just as the blistering numbness of white finger took a firm hold upon one's maulers, I suggested there would be no finer year for me to land the trifecta of the National as this getting up in the morning and dragging myself out to work...well I've given it a fair try, but it just simply isn't for me.
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    I've had a wee look at the betting.

    I think the bookies are being pretty fair at the moment.

    Perhaps someone can correct me but I'm pretty sure this time last year Blaklion was about 10/1 fav?

    At 20/1 the field at the moment, that's the way an ante-post book should look this far out.
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