Even tighter at the top:
GUTAIFAN 30
NIGHT OF THUNDER £)
CABLE BAY 29
DUE DILIGENCE 27
Even tighter at the top:
GUTAIFAN 30
NIGHT OF THUNDER £)
CABLE BAY 29
DUE DILIGENCE 27
Ah! but a man's reach should exceed his grasp......
Carl (3rd November 2019), Eleanora Duse (5th November 2019)
Some misses, but included in Colin's table
Saturday Newmarket:
Global Storm (Night of Thunder) for Appleby
Kenzai Warrior (Karakontjie) for Teal (Gp3 win) I'm sure this is a FSS and if it is I missed its debut win.
Despite the above, Cable Bay's fee has been increased from £5,000 to £15,000. Apparently He had a large 2nd crop and hopefully his mating book will be bigger for his 5th crop.
No Nay Never is up again to €150,000 from €100,000 from €25,000. Now the 2nd highest priced Coolmore sire. Is it justified? Please discuss.
NO NAY NEVER - Group winners
2018 - 2
2019 - 7
Ah! but a man's reach should exceed his grasp......
Eleanora Duse (6th November 2019)
So not knocking them in to the extent you'd expect at that price. But if folk are willing to pay it......
Wednesday
Dundalk so Suave (Make Believe) for Murtagh
Nottingham: Mishriff (Make Believe) for Gosden
Make Believe has done well with very little fuss. When he had his first winner people had already forgotten him (he was from Makfi's first crop and won the French 2000G). Covered 70 in 2018 and 75 in 2019. Will probably cover as many, if not more, next year.
Colin Phillips (7th November 2019)
Thursday
Southwell: Ventura Destiny (Outstrip) for Dalgleish
Chelmsford: Silver Machine (Brazen Beau) for Watson
Colin Phillips (8th November 2019)
The sands of time are running out and today Gutaifan has no runners while Cable Bay has two
Colin Phillips (8th November 2019)
7 isn’t a bad figure but I’ll take a look over the next few days to see who is paying the €100,000 fee for this sire. Coolmore own him and are makers of sires, but you could take a view they are doing a bit of a ‘job’ on making this one.
The big hitters so far for the sire have been Ten Sovereigns and Arizona: both Coolmore. A successful non-Sadler’s Wells line sire is a necessity for Coolmore’s own-bred mares of that there's little doubt. The quality of those mares is unquestionable and it will be a great aid to establishing No Nay Never. If you haven't quite got that quality is No Nay Never your best option?
Colin Phillips (9th November 2019)
Dead-heat, ED.
Table below:
Runs Wins Strike Rate % % Return @SP % Return at Betfair SP 5% com
GUTAIFAN 290 30 10.3 78.2 91.7
NIGHT OF THUNDER 121 30 24.8 148.1 188.5
CABLE BAY 212 29 13.7 88.9 128.6
DUE DILIGENCE 156 27 17.3 129.2 146.8
GLENEAGLES 106 21 19.8 117.1 135.7
ANJAAL 173 15 8.7 82.8 146.1
MAKE BELIEVE 117 14 12.0 65.4 74.9
OUTSTRIP 122 13 10.7 97.9 123.0
BRAZEN BEAU 129 13 10.1 52.7 55.0
FREE EAGLE 87 11 12.6 39.5 40.2
IVAWOOD 171 12 7.0 55.6 56.9
MUHAARAR 99 11 11.1 42.3 48.4
Numbers gleaned from Adrian Massey's excellent FREE site, any mistakes will have been mine.
Last edited by Colin Phillips; 14th November 2019 at 10:09 AM.
Ah! but a man's reach should exceed his grasp......
Eleanora Duse (14th November 2019)
Night Of Thunder, the one on the table with the best strike rate, is by Dubawi out of a Galileo mare, the two best sires around. The breeding game is simple, isn't it?
Eleanora Duse (17th November 2019)
Kingman goes up to £150,000.
Night of Thunder goes up to £25,000 from £15,000 (like the look of his Pocket Square).
Too Darn Hot starts at £50,000
Cable Bay up to £15,000.
Colin Phillips (17th November 2019), NHughes (17th November 2019)
NIGHT OF THUNDER looks the value there.
Ah! but a man's reach should exceed his grasp......
I wonder if the going had an effect on the results
was a pretty wet Summer if memory serves me right.?
and NOT liked to get his toe in
https://theownerbreeder.com/sire-lis...er=DESC&page=1
Night Of Thunder well clear Europe-wide too.
NIGHT OF THUNDER's babies by going:
Heavy runs 9 wins 3 33.3% return% 155.6
Soft 16 - 2 - 12.5 - 108.6
Good to Soft 15 - 7 - 46.7 - 423.7 (2 x 25/1)
Good 28 - 5 - 17.9 - 133.9
Good to Firm 38 - 11 - 28.9 - 83.7
Firm - no runners
Decent returns on most goings. Almost always anomalies in the going stats due to small sample size.
Ah! but a man's reach should exceed his grasp......
Eleanora Duse (25th November 2019), NHughes (18th November 2019)
according to arion pedigrees, night of thunder has never been level on wins with gutaifan this season GB wins only
current standings gutaifan 32 GB wins / cable bay 28 / night of thunder 27 / due diligence 26
as your table shows night of thunder was the most profitable and best overall , hopefully gutaifan still gets the FSS 2019 champion accolade
thanks colin and all contributors to the thread
Thanks, ulleyseys.
Have a look at Great Britain & Ireland. This is the table the bookies offer odds on.
Ah! but a man's reach should exceed his grasp......