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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    I'll get back to you on that, wilsonl, but the Ultima takes a hell of a winning these days. To win it off 140 nowadays you really need to be verging on at least 155. It's run at Gold Cup pace and anything that doesn't have class/pace will be dead on its feet with a mile to go.
    In truth Mo the Ultima was an afterthought of mine as although King has run novices in it before this lad has to-date only had one run over fences (excluding his pointing days) and as well as he jumped around Plumpton that was effectively in his own time and the Ultima would be a completely different test. I do think the extra distance would suit him but mainly it's his chance in the Close Brothers that I'm most interested in.
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    Mister Whitaker went up 8lbs to 145 for winning the CB and went up another 7lb for winning his next race (not a hcap).

    The year before Gold Present went up 5lbs for finishing second to Tully East. It's hard to tell how much TE went up because of the difference in ratings between here and Ireland but his next run in the UK was off 10lbs higher despite not running well in between. (Personally I remain suspicious about how he was able to win it so impressively and so heavily punted when he hasn't really backed it up since.)

    In 2016 Ballyalton went up 9lbs for beating Bouvreuil half a length. Again, I have to be suspicious about a heavily-bet winner in this race not going on to frank the form.

    Maybe the race just takes a lot out of them.

    Based on the above, GMP will probably need to be at least 7lbs better than his current mark but surely there will be no shortage of other runners, especially from the bigger stables, thought to have that amount up their sleeves.

    Unless I came across one with 10lbs in hand just now I wouldn't want to get involved in this race.
    Two's company, three's allowed.

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    Master Dino to miss Cheltenham with a leg fracture he suffered in this race

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beef or Salmon View Post
    Master Dino to miss Cheltenham with a leg fracture he suffered in this race
    Bollox. Knew I should’ve taken the NRNB price


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    Severe blow!
    .Sorry for the poor horse and for the end of my I’m a shrewdie smug feeling.
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    That's a bummer - The Irish/English 'battle' is played out by iTV to gross ill effect

    Would have been nice to have a French horse put it up to them
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    It'll probably be a double blow in the sense that Macaire might now think twice about sending any decent horse over in future.
    Two's company, three's allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    That's a bummer - The Irish/English 'battle' is played out by iTV to gross ill effect

    Would have been nice to have a French horse put it up to them
    Have to hope for a couple of French entries in the cross country so!!

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    9 runs as a 3yo.
    9 runs as a 4yo.
    All on soft or softer.
    The older I get the better I was.

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    Absolutely gutting news.

    We move on.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    No one pricing up next years Makeson/Murphys/Paddy Power/Thomas Pink/Betvictor yet?

    Personally I wasn't overly impressed with him on Sunday. Hope he comes back.

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