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    Caspian Cavier Gold Cup Cheltenham Sat Dec 15

    Some cracking value in this race, albeit anti-post value, if you look hard enough. Forest Bihan is winking at me.

    This fella beat the ultra consistent Cloudy Dream as a novice, before beating another top horse in Simply Ned at Kelso last season, where he was giving away a few pounds in the weights.
    He fell last time out, but is young enough at seven years of age to bounce back. I think he is very interesting if stepped up in trip for Saturday, on a mark of 150, currently at 25/1.
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    Caspian Cavier Gold Cup Cheltenham Sat Dec 15

    One that looks to me like it might just be ahead of the handicapper is Mr Medic. He and Flying Angel pulled well clear of the rest at Ascot last time out. Cobra de Mai also ran in that race and became detached early on so may be quite a bit better than the bare result so makes some appeal at 20/1.

    No idea of running plans for these two though


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    Yeah I have no idea of running plans for Forest Bihan either. See what happens during the week. Should be a declaration stage tomorrow.

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    I strongly fancied Rather Be for the Bet Victor, was still cruising when brought down. Retrieval mission time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggers1972 View Post
    I strongly fancied Rather Be for the Bet Victor, was still cruising when brought down. Retrieval mission time.
    Agree Darren. So much so that I included him a couple of tasty looking multiples running on to the Festival.

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    How's the ground shaping up ahead of this race?

    Rather Be will be on everyone's radar now. He won't know that, of course, but I just wonder if he'll be poor value by Saturday.
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    Looks promising for some decent ground then.

    It also looks like being dryish week but with the possibility of heavy rain on Saturday afternoon.
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    No Forest Bihan in 5 day decs Marble. Hope you held on to your cash.



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    I did indeed, Viking. Hopefully he will take up his Irish entry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marble View Post
    I did indeed, Viking. Hopefully he will take up his Irish entry...
    He cannot win a handicap in Ireland, if that's what his entry is. If he goes there he goes to get his mark down while connections have a bevvy.
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    It's not a handicap, Maurice. It's the Grade 1 Novice Chase, 'Sugar Paddy' chase. I really have a feeling, having looked at his form, and knowing he had a wind operation during the summer, that a huge run is coming, in the next 1-2 runs. To be frank, apart from Footpad I am not sure what he has to fear in that race in Ireland where it's likely there will only be a dozen or so runners, but I will look more closely later. I am licking my lips at the 25/1 on offer. Brian Ellison likes a raid at Leopardstown too. It's the 27th December, but my money will be where my mouth is, assuming the fella turns up. I might even have an anti post nibble as I wouldn't want to miss the 25/1.
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    This is now operation Bihan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marble View Post
    It's not a handicap, Maurice. It's the Grade 1 Novice Chase, 'Sugar Paddy' chase. I really have a feeling, having looked at his form, and knowing he had a wind operation during the summer, that a huge run is coming, in the next 1-2 runs. To be frank, apart from Footpad I am not sure what he has to fear in that race in Ireland where it's likely there will only be a dozen or so runners, but I will look more closely later. I am licking my lips at the 25/1 on offer. Brian Ellison likes a raid at Leopardstown too. It's the 27th December, but my money will be where my mouth is, assuming the fella turns up. I might even have an anti post nibble as I wouldn't want to miss the 25/1.
    I'll check it out at some point. I wouldn't have thought he qualified for novice races but he does a have a high enough rating to be dangerous against genuine novices.

    Edit - I've had a quick look. It is a Grade 1, not a novices' race. He has little chance unless it cuts up badly. If you can get NRNB fair enough.
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    Romain de seman at 20/1
    Fell or unseated in the mackeson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outsider View Post
    Romain de seman at 20/1
    Fell or unseated in the mackeson.
    Yep. I backed it in the Mackeson. Definitely has a big race in it.
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    Just to point out to the RDS fans that he's 25's with Hills still,if you can get on with them. You'd certainly want a decent surface for him on Saturday imo.
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    Your probably right, DO. Upon second thoughts, I would rather see him in a lesser race. On balance it does appear a Grade 1 is a big ask.

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    Someone post up the entries please
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