Does Altior need to win over 3m to surpass Sprinter?
Does Altior need to win over 3m to surpass Sprinter?
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
Would love to see him let rip in a Melling.
All comers, all grounds, all beaten!
This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.
Think everyone knows Altior stays 2 1/2 miles so a Melling would prove nowt.
If you appreciate performance then yes I expect it proves errrrrrrr 'nowt'.
All comers, all grounds, all beaten!
This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.
Altior is the best horse in training so yeah I appreciate performance Frankel FFS. Do you honestly think he'd be less dominant over an extra half mile? So then it doesn't prove anything.
If he goes 3 miles and say wins a King George then his name couldn't be more fitting.
Too much brandy in the Xmas pud and this is what we get
By surpass I assume you mean to be rated as highly.
Considering he's the highest rated chaser around there's nothing he could beat to boost his rating by a stone.
Unlike Sprinter Altior is more of a Sea the Stars than a Sea Bird or a Frankel.
The handicapper and Timeform are creatures of habit and they tend to be at their most generous after a Championship race.
In both cases the QMCC when Altior was given 175 and Sprinter 188
Altior simply isn't capable of jumping 4 out and cruising into a 10-15 length lead by 3 out in top company like Sprinter was
There are no Sizing Europe's around over 2 miles that he can beat by 13 lengths
Had he run in the King George to get a 188 he would have to have beaten Clan Des Obeaux 160 by around 30 lengths.
Timeform might find a way as they always come up with some crackers to create excitement and to help sell racing/their product.
Formely Fist of Fury
Not less dominant no but that's not the point. I expect 2 and a half would be his optimum trip and would love to see it.
Was obvious Sprinter would be dominant in his Melling but we still wanted to see it didn't we?
Clearly the Melling would just be another step towards a King George.
All comers, all grounds, all beaten!
This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
I always like the idea of trying to compare horses from different eras.
It can probably never be conclusive one way or another but the debate is often fascinating.
In terms of beating certain horses with certain ratings by certain distances you could argue that Master Minded at his best wasn't at all far off Sprinter at his best.
I always felt See More Business was seriously under-rated at his best and Best Mate seriously over-rated (but not as much as that old moo Dawn Run). I know which I would have backed in a match.
Illegitimi non carborundum
There's got to be some Ante Post value to be found in this race. Most of the other grade one horses will be going to the Ryanair. Reckon Altior could scare them all off and this could be a 5 runner race meaning 3 places ante post could be a nice payout.
Danny and DO, you must have a fair idea?
Sceau Royal 20/1 maybe.
Ordinary world is running well in the top 2 mile races and never too far away at the last bend.
Got a great run from him at 50/1 last year an expecting the same this year.
I think OW needs another half mile and possibly quite soft
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
I was of the same opinion with Ordinary World last year maybe pinching a place if ridden that way.
Knew the game was up as he made his ground up too soon!
All comers, all grounds, all beaten!
This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.
Could be a cracking shout.