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    Great race, very worthy winner. Well done Baron Alco's backers. He wasn't really on my radar and the price would have put me off anyway.

    I was already swearing at the ride Kalondra was getting when Fehily got it wrong once too often. He hardly met a fence right but there was no need for him to be so far back. I know he's a hold-up horse but that was ridiculous.

    Frodon might well have pulled it off with a better round of jumping. He just fiddled a few too many for my liking.

    Backers of Mister Whitaker are also entitled to spit a bit of blood at the ride he got.
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    Race fell apart with the fallers. The winner being out in front was worth about 10 lengths. Unsatisfactory race.

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    Brought down too far out to be certain but Rather Be is a winner in waiting off his current mark.
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    Oh dear old Kings Socks. What would have happened if he had stood up at that fence. Fair play to the horse. He was trying.

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    Done my bollocks in on last 2 races. Gutted I couldn't watch it. Seems Kalondra was never in the race anyway from what I'm reading. I'll watch it tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double J View Post
    Done my bollocks in on last 2 races. Gutted I couldn't watch it. Seems Kalondra was never in the race anyway from what I'm reading. I'll watch it tonight.
    It was 5 out. Was trading below BSP. Rave fell apart up front and the winner was all out to be beat one off the bridle a long way out. The potential first 4 home were all on the deck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimChance View Post
    The potential first 4 home were all on the deck.
    That's an interesting angle I'll need to look at but Frodon is a good tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    That's an interesting angle I'll need to look at but Frodon is a good tool.
    If Baron Alco meets the horses on the deck again on his revised mark how many of them would you back him to beat?

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    The clue is "revised mark"

    Fuckme but I've backed a total of ten horses today. Of the eight to have run so far, Frodon and Sweet Home Chicago are the only ones to get round and Heskin cost SHC a place with an inept tactical ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    The clue is "revised mark"

    Fuckme but I've backed a total of ten horses today. Of the eight to have run so far, Frodon and Sweet Home Chicago are the only ones to get round and Heskin cost SHC a place with an inept tactical ride.
    Toughest day I've had in a long time.

    Heskin is getting some abuse today, it can't all be without merit.
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    Not sure if he was being cool or cowardly on The Worlds End.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    Of the eight to have run so far, Frodon and Sweet Home Chicago are the only ones to get round
    The other two were Speedo Boy and Mellow Ben (4th 33/1 by the look of it and bookies seemingly paying the fourth place) so I've managed to recoup just about all of my outlay.

    I'll settle for that now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LUKE View Post
    Not sure if he was being cool or cowardly on The Worlds End.
    It was like it was a different horse from the one that jumped them stupid at Chepstow. At the bottom of the hill I was thinking this is some tool to win after jumping like a snooker table. I'd have taken 1/5 at that point. A very tame effort up the hill.

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    Pity Briony lost her claim last week , surprised they didn't manage that better.

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    Just seen the replay. 6 finishers! So basically we get to do this all again in December?

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    Yes!

    When I said 'great race' I meant it.

    We had a Festival pace, fallers, unseats, mistakes, heroics.

    And all came back safe and sound.

    Entertainment of the first order even if it lost me a packet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    Yes!

    When I said 'great race' I meant it.

    We had a Festival pace, fallers, unseats, mistakes, heroics.

    And all came back safe and sound.

    Entertainment of the first order even if it lost me a packet
    I have to be mischievous and ask you what you think of the race as a handicapping savant?

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    I'll need to get back to you once I've crunched the numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    I'll need to get back to you once I've crunched the numbers.
    Just in terms of it being a satisfactory race? Can you draw any worthwhile conclusions on those that hit the deck bar MWTT? 6 finishers must be annoying.
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    I see what you mean in terms of few finishers but Frodon ran well (could have been more fluent at a few fences) and since the pace was strong from the off, I'm inclined to take a positive view of the form. All I can do is rate the finishers as the others departed too soon.

    Whether the non-finishers would have been involved is moot for the time being. If, for example, I conclude that Frodon has run his race then I can conclude that Baron Alco has improved. If the figure I come with for BA is less than my projected figure for Kalondra, I can take comfort from still having backed the right horse.
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