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    Quote Originally Posted by Marble View Post
    I really liked the way Mister Whitaker nosed his head in front to beat Rather Be at the festival, after a less than smooth run. Rather Be is technically better off for this, but ultimately he was still beaten and still carries four pound more here, on 149, as opposed to Mister Whitaker's 145. Mister Whitaker is entered up at Carlisle on Sunday where we shall see how he is coming along. Re-Magic Saint. He is an interesting entry for sure. He will be in the deep end here, even on a mark which means that he could potentially be ahead of the handicapper. On paper he looks well handicapped but how many times have we seen these types before. Well handicapped but fail to deliver? He will have to be some animal to win first out in The Bet Victor. Top Gamble could place in an average renewal but this year's looks a bit more competitive than average.
    On better ground I'd be very confident Rather Be would reverse form.
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    My early arrows are Kalondra and El Bandit.
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    Yeh, like Kalondra also

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    Are we talking BetVictor or Hennessy now
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    we should start a thread for the Henn...sorry Ladbrokes Trophy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlaceBacker View Post
    we should start a thread for the Henn...sorry Ladbrokes Trophy!
    Yeah Ladbrokes and others have won enough off those FOBT machines to sponsor many races for a very long time! What year did they actually start putting those things in high street shops? The year they declared psychological warfare on poor people seeking to be less poor!
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    What odds they start buying up Islands far far away, with their profits, name them 'Ladbrokes Island', then turn them into new Nevada's.
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    I'm wondering if I'm pished.
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    Fixed odds machines with a built in mathmatical edge, alledgedly throwing 'random' numbers. This was a recipe for printing money by the truck load. This very concept is like playing the lottery, then watching Jimmy Saviile fiddle the Lottery machine beforehand by adding another 30 new numbers to the 49 already in there. No wonder the profits have been so immense for bookmakers...
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    Cracking down on them the best thing the Tory government have done in office for sure.
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    Sorries, rant over.

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    Indeed, DO......I was talking cobblers.......my arrows for BVGC are Kalondra and Casablanca Mix.

    El Bandit is my early Hennessy arrow, along with Step Back.
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    For the Hennessy my first route would involve second-season chasers with Grade 1 potential and although last year's inaugural running under the new sponsorship and, if memory serves, significantly enhanced money, followed the pattern, I wouldn't be at all surprised if certain operations decided before last year's race that it would be worth spending a year getting the handicap mark of a Grade 1 horse down a fair bit.

    Still, there's plenty of water to flow under the bridge before it comes to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimChance View Post
    I'd much rather be on for the Hennessey at double the price. If he wins at Carlisle he'll shorten right up for it.
    Forgot he was actually running today, won nicely I see.

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    How did we leave it go off 3/1. Sometimes as punters we think too much. Why worry about the Hennessey when he's 3/1 in a boat race.

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    had in mind to back him, big circle around him- yet went for the skelton improver after watching interview about chtbellos chances in previous race

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    How did we leave it go off 3/1. Sometimes as punters we think too much. Why worry about the Hennessey when he's 3/1 in a boat race.
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    The weights, didn't think they were out this early but here they are

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    Mister Whitaker my strongest fancy. He is a worthy favourite. I hope he runs well. At a much bigger price, I am considering the Skelton horse Cobra De Mai. His strike rate over fences is 5/11 which is good. He came right back to his best form last time out. He is still only six years of age, so could find a lot of improvement carrying a nice low weight. I will hold fire until final declarations on Thursday, but I am tempted by the 33/1.
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    Rather Be is weighted to reverse Close Bros form quite comfortably.
    I like him, Kalondra and Western Approach who I thought ran a cracker fto considering how keen he was for most of the race. This step down in trip will suit.
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