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    DR entries are out

    No sign of Melon

    Samcro in and the plan is to run
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    If I've read Friday's race conditions correctly, Samcro has to give 5lb to Sharjah who is officially rated 5lb inferior. Also may have to give up to 15lb to others if they're declared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauto Abu View Post
    And just for more good luck Identity Thief also won a Fighting 5th.

    Why wouldnít it help it. You said heíd only beaten 3 G1 2m horses and Iíve just given you 4 more on top of it.


    Might I be so bold to add in My Tent or Yours who also won a Grade 1 Xmas Hurdle. That makes it 8 different 2mile G1 winners heís beaten.

    Jesus the list is growing by the minute. Remind me never to hire you as a researcher Grassy.

    A true back to back champion.

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    Youíre right, KA. I guess my research could have been better, and all respect is due to Boov for beating such titans of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    Youíre right, KA. I guess my research could have been better, and all respect is due to Boov for beating such titans of the game.
    Oh I never called any of them titans, I was simply pointing out that BD had beaten a hell a lot more than 3 horses with Grade 1s over 2miles to their name.

    The horse can only beat whatís put in front of him and that he does, again and again.


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    Fair enough, though in my view, you cannot divorce the quality of the horses he’s beaten, from statements like “A true chanpion”. Quality has to be a contrubuting factor, when it comes to that kind of assessment, imo.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    Fair enough, though in my view, you cannot divorce the quality of the horses heís beaten, from statements like ďA true chanpionĒ. Quality has to be a contrubuting factor, when it comes to that kind of assessment, imo.
    Itís a game of opinions Grass. Iím not out to try and change anyoneís opinion but I think winning back to back champion hurdles makes him pretty special and puts him in the same bracket as Hardy Eustace, Istabraq or See You Then.

    Itís hard enough to win a champion hurdle but to get back in one piece and defend your title is even harder and great champions like the fly or brave inca couldnít manage that. Thereís no such thing as a poor champion hurdle in my opinion and with the likes of the tent & TNO behind him you have very reliable yardsticks on previous renewals.




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    Official marks after CH victories:
    Buveur D'Air 169
    Buveur D'Air 167
    Annie Power 166
    Faugheen 173
    Jezki 169
    Hurricane Fly 173
    Rock On Ruby 170
    Hurricane Fly 172
    Binocular 172
    Punjabi 164
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    Istabraq 176
    Istabraq 170
    Istabraq 164
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    Hardy Eustace 167
    Hardy Eustace 166

    Draw whatever conclusions you wish
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    Binocular & Rock On Ruby too high. Rest seem fine

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    Binocular only a 172 when Tanlic is on the good Thai gear. Joke rating.
    Last edited by Grasshopper; 29th October 2018 at 8:28 PM.
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    Binocular was a very good horse on his day with a number of fragilities - in the 2010 CH he was quite brilliant and his jumping was extraordinarily slick. Deserves his rating for that day.

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    Was that the year Binocular was went to Martinstown for a little sabbatical before returning much improved to the fray for the big day?

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    Kyber Kim second in Binos Champion Hurdle. Formwise on a par with Katchit or Punjabi, imo.
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    Samcro declared for tomorrow. At the weights, Sharjah is entitled to give him a race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
    Samcro declared for tomorrow. At the weights, Sharjah is entitled to give him a race.
    Thought the same myself, can't see any prices on this stupid phone though to see if it's worth a quid or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double J View Post
    Thought the same myself, can't see any prices on this stupid phone though to see if it's worth a quid or two.
    7/2 with PP/Betfair. No other quotes atm
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    Anyone know when Greatwood Hurdle official entries will be released?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
    Samcro declared for tomorrow.
    A nation holds it's breath
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marble View Post
    Anyone know when Greatwood Hurdle official entries will be released?
    https://www.racingpost.com/racecards...8-11-18/713942

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    Backed Sharjah. 4s is too big given the weight concession Samcro gives him.

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    The move for Sharjah is making me wonder is Samcro a doubtful runner.

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