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    Al Boum Photo at five times the price of Presenting Percy already appeals to me as an each way selection (33's).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyB View Post
    Al Boum Photo at five times the price of Presenting Percy already appeals to me as an each way selection (33's).
    They won't but I'd send him to Newbury.
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    I don't think he's a stayer.

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    You have to bear in mind that Willie has never won the Gold Cup or the Champion Chase. He has a dozen or so contenders for the 3 Championship chases including a few who are quoted in all 3 races:
    Footpad
    Bellshill
    Douvan
    Al Boum Photo
    Killultagh Vic
    Kemboy
    Invitation Only
    Un De Sceaux
    Min
    Benie Des Dieux
    Great Field
    Cadmium

    Anyone backing in anything other than the Any Race market may like to brush up on the rules of Mullins Bingo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
    You have to bear in mind that Willie has never won the Gold Cup or the Champion Chase. He has a dozen or so contenders for the 3 Championship chases including a few who are quoted in all 3 races:
    Footpad
    Bellshill
    Douvan
    Al Boum Photo
    Killultagh Vic
    Kemboy
    Invitation Only
    Un De Sceaux
    Min
    Benie Des Dieux
    Great Field
    Cadmium

    Anyone backing in anything other than the Any Race market may like to brush up on the rules of Mullins Bingo.
    Some list

    My thoughts

    Footpad - So good over 2, don't think can be as good over 3

    Belshill - surprised at his rate of improvement

    Douvan - nope

    ABP - mid 160s horse

    KV- aim him at the Lexus

    Kempboy- nope

    IO - nope

    UDS - warrior. One more win in him

    Min - too headstrong plus short of top class

    BDD - won't be campaigned in any exciting way

    GF - 2 miles is this headbangers max

    Cadmium - nope
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    Might Bite is a steering-job if the ground isnít Soft/Heavy.
    I agree. The ground stopped him this year, plus I think the experience will help him next year. I can't see Thistlecrack coming back to anything like his previous form unfortunately. I hope but can't see it.

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    As much as I respect his ability, I'd be pretty confident Thistlecrack's previous form isn't good enough to win a Gold Cup anyway GG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    I don't think he's a stayer.
    what do you predict will be the biggest race he wins in his career?
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    If Mullins doesn't send Douvan or Footpad to the King George, he'd be the one I think he'd most likely send over, given you can't run everything in the Lexus. Could I see him beating Might Bite? No, but I think he'd run very well around Kempton.

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    Sizing John is back in training
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Some list
    If they were all fit and the races were next week, I'd take a punt at:
    GC - Bellshill/Douvan/Al Boum Photo/Killultagh Vic
    Ryanair - Min/UDS/Kemboy/Invitation Only
    QM - Footpad/Great Field/Cadmium
    MaresH - Benie Des Dieux

    In reality, they will be campaigned with the various options in mind and will end up where they end up. As it stands, I'd have thought that the first choices were Bellshill/Min/Footpad but there are a number of 6yos who will be at their peak next March.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maruco View Post
    As much as I respect his ability, I'd be pretty confident Thistlecrack's previous form isn't good enough to win a Gold Cup anyway GG.
    Mmmm not sure I agree with that, but he'll come a year older, and anything can happen on the day. You never know who's going to turn up on the day, and who isn't. I just hope if he comes back and is not doing it, they don't keep on with him. They don't always come back from set backs such as he has had.

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    IF

    Faugheen does go chasing...

    Let's say he wins his beginners and the big Leopardstown Xmas race...

    Could be go gold cuppin. At his age it's all or nothing.
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    There's just no way they'd leave themselves open to the criticism PJ. Some decisions are big, and others are just too big.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maruco View Post
    There's just no way they'd leave themselves open to the criticism PJ. Some decisions are big, and others are just too big.....
    I do agree but if he is to be Sent chasing, he'll surely only get one crack at it
    Some people say heís the best since Arkle and thatís certainly true when you look at what heís done

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
    GC - Bellshill/Douvan/Al Boum Photo/Killultagh Vic

    I'd give up trying if I were him. It's just never gonna happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-G View Post
    Mmmm not sure I agree with that, but he'll come a year older, and anything can happen on the day. You never know who's going to turn up on the day, and who isn't. I just hope if he comes back and is not doing it, they don't keep on with him. They don't always come back from set backs such as he has had.
    Thistlecrack the first one I’d write-off for the Gold Cup. He’d need to come back a minimum half-stone better a chaser than he’s ever shown, to get anywhere near landing a blow, I reckon......which isn’t going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    what do you predict will be the biggest race he wins in his career?
    Something like the Kinloch Brae

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    Trying to think outside the box here. Does Waiting Patiently get the Gold Cup trip? 33s is a nice price if he runs anywhere near Might Bite round Kempton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double J View Post
    Trying to think outside the box here. Does Waiting Patiently get the Gold Cup trip?
    Nope.
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