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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Geezer View Post
    Sizing John out for season
    Would have to think that is that and not really bother listen to any trainer about a horse
    Some people say hes the best since Arkle and thats certainly true when you look at what hes done

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    Like nobody saw that coming! I just wish they'd be out in the open with this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maruco View Post
    Like nobody saw that coming! I just wish they'd be out in the open with this stuff.
    Have they not been open? JH regularly tweets updates seemingly being careful not to mislead. My understanding is that they were satisfied that he was in good shape and were waiting for suitable ground conditions for a prep race prior to Cheltenham. JH has repeatedly and recently said she was not prepared to risk him on unsuitable ground.
    My guess ( no more than that!) is that they sent him out on a final workout that would have him fully fit to run over the coming weekend and that that has been too much for him. I’m sure that this happens in yards throughout the sport. What I am sure about is that she would not race him if she thought he was not up to it.
    "Do not think the moment was imagined, do not think of strategies like this." Leonard Cohen

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    I certainly agree with the final point TS, but I like many have suspected he's been battling niggles related to the injury all season. Sizing John has been a horse that has relished better ground all his career, but he hasn't been deemed fit enough to run on it at any stage. So what is suitable ground? Is he not fit enough to run on good to soft? Would he have run on good to soft in the Gold Cup. I'm sure you see my point?

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    Native River now going straight to Gold Cup without a run before then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Geezer View Post
    Native River now going straight to Gold Cup without a run before then
    Obviously ground dependant but this equine flu drama could be a blessing in disguise for Native River. Last season’s prep seemed perfect for him and in my opinion, a hard race against Clan des Obeaux at Newbury last week or Ascot this, may have found him out come Gold Cup day. If the ground is soft on Gold Cup day then he’ll be my bet.

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    percy backers have to be getting twitchy now

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesRB View Post
    percy backers have to be getting twitchy now
    They are a resolute bunch!!

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    Owner quote

    "All is good with Percy. He schooled this morning, and there no problems."

    Various sources suggesting the Bobby Jo chase at Fairyhouse next weekend could be an option.

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    Appreciate there's still time but just came across a stat that says
    "No Gold Cup winner in the past 30 winners without a previous chase run that season."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Geezer View Post
    Appreciate there's still time but just came across a stat that says
    "No Gold Cup winner in the past 30 winners without a previous chase run that season."
    wonder what the % of runners is

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlaceBacker View Post
    Managed to have a small each way play at 50-1 before the King George, so fingers crossed the horse stays safe and sound till 15th March
    Very pleased with his Denman Chase Win today, especially as a lot of good judges in Lambourn thought Terrefort was back to his best
    Win some,lose some,but always enjoying it

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlaceBacker View Post
    Very pleased with his Denman Chase Win today, especially as a lot of good judges in Lambourn thought Terrefort was back to his best
    I was in the no camp but that was very impressive new favourite for me

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    CDO looked good today but still has to prove a bit to me
    Some people say hes the best since Arkle and thats certainly true when you look at what hes done

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    Thought that was the perfect GC trial


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    A 4 horse race at Ascot less than 4 weeks before the big one is in no way a perfect trial even though it was a good performance.
    The older I get the better I was.

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    Whatever suits the horse archie is the best trial.

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    And didn’t Gold Cup winner Native River win the same race last year against a handful of horses?

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    Anibale Fly ran a lovely race behind Monalee.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

    This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.

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