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    Quote Originally Posted by Len Madeiros View Post
    And didn’t Gold Cup winner Native River win the same race last year against a handful of horses?
    A week earlier and at Newbury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edgt View Post
    Whatever suits the horse archie is the best trial.
    True, of course. The word 'perfect' still doesn't spring to mind.
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    Native River is going to have more on his plate this year with the turnaround of CDO into a bit of a star and Presenting Percy holding his form well and possibly improving.

    Couldn't sea past him last year but if the ground is on the fast side at all I would have to side with PN's new found star.

    Surely the time has come to retire Coneygree and spend the rest of his days hunting or watching grass grow?
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    Coneygree was retired post race yesterday

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    Simon Rowlands re Cyrname's race

    "It was about 45.0s into Clan des Obeaux's race, so CdO was about 4.0s (nearly 20 lengths) slower for the final 21.11f of a 23.89f race."

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    Looking at the odds

    Kemboy is the shortest of Willie's

    Guessing though that Ruby will possibly choose Bellshill

    Wondering if the Ruby factor could send Bellshill off shorter than Kemboy.
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Surely especially if he wins anything during the week.
    Two years ago the place was eerily quiet through Tuesday and Wednesday by Festival standards; Thursday normal service as measured in decibels was restored when Yorkhill, Un De Sceaux Nichols Canyon etc came in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgt View Post
    Surely especially if he wins anything during the week.
    Two years ago the place was eerily quiet through Tuesday and Wednesday by Festival standards; Thursday normal service as measured in decibels was restored when Yorkhill, Un De Sceaux Nichols Canyon etc came in.
    Mullins and Walsh won nothing the first 2 days. Then land a 4 timer with the ones above and I think Lets Dance in the Mares Novice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Looking at the odds

    Kemboy is the shortest of Willie's

    Guessing though that Ruby will possibly choose Bellshill

    Wondering if the Ruby factor could send Bellshill off shorter than Kemboy.
    i'd go with kemboy if i was ruby, form is working out pretty well

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    I wouldn't have thought that he will have the final say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
    I wouldn't have thought that he will have the final say.
    If previous years are anything to go by, he will be deciding which horse runs in what race and what he is riding

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
    I wouldn't have thought that he will have the final say.
    Sporting wise, I hope David keeps the ride
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Willie, Patrick, Ruby and David Casey will be the main players in the process but Willie will make the final decision.

    In any case, Ruby won a G1 on Bellshill two weeks ago and he hasn't ridden Kemboy in a race for over two years. Paul or David would be fine for Kemboy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Geezer View Post

    Various sources suggesting the Bobby Jo chase at Fairyhouse next weekend could be an option.

    Has an entry
    Last edited by Diamond Geezer; 19th February 2019 at 2:48 PM.

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    https://www.attheraces.com/news/2019...hilip-reynolds

    Just reaching for a pinch of salt.
    Last edited by archie; 19th February 2019 at 6:48 PM.
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    See Al Boum Photo doesn't have an entry for the bobbyjo at Fairyhouse this weekend.
    I'm getting twitchy that he might miss the festival or do will he go there off the back of just one run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyB View Post
    See Al Boum Photo doesn't have an entry for the bobbyjo at Fairyhouse this weekend.
    I'm getting twitchy that he might miss the festival or do will he go there off the back of just one run?
    Willie hinted he would have no problem being really patient with him recently
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Geezer View Post
    Appreciate there's still time but just came across a stat that says
    "No Gold Cup winner in the past 30 winners without a previous chase run that season."
    I would imagine you could add another thirty years to that somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
    They'd be mad to run him this close to the Festival now. He jumps a fence very well and he'll have had plenty of schooling so I'd take him straight there irrespective of what the stats say.

    I'm a stats man, and without looking I can't think of a horse that's gone off as favourite or second favourite and hasn't had a run over fences that has been beaten in the last 30 years, so I'd say the stats are in his favour! Plus Willie has broken just about every Cheltenham stat going in recent years, so he's the one that's shown them the way!!!!

    For all that I do like yours as an alternative Archie, and I'd certainly have him as easily the best chance of Willie's.
    Last edited by Maruco; 20th February 2019 at 9:40 AM.

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    I certainly won't be backing him if he hasn't had a prep over fences.
    If he wins then I'll doff my cap.

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