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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Geezer View Post
    Simon Rowland of Timeform referring to last weekend's Punchestown meeting

    "I could find only Douvan at the Punchestown Festival in 2016 completing from two out over fences at this course quicker in recent times than Getabird did here"
    Interesting to see that. I presume they will try him left handed again sooner rather than later
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    OK Corral, pulled out yesterday at Cheltenham "because of the ground", appears in a 4 runner affair at Plumpton tomorrow which is part of the 60K bonus series if a winner at Plumpton and at the Festival.

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    While it's hard to be sure of the solidity of the time comparisons last Friday at Cheltenham (not a strong sample of races) it looks to me like The Worlds End has put up a very strong run in his race. While I'd have preferred NRNB, I've taken 16/1 for the RSA. If my figures are correct, his would be good enough to win about eight out of ten renewals.

    (And before the race I'd dismissed TWE as never impressing me.)
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    ruby going to limerick on the 26th to ride Getabird - sign that he is a very good horse maybe
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Getabird may well have to be exceptional.

    I'm a huge fan of Santini and he did well the other week in what is now one of the strongest heats of the season but his time was pedestrian.

    Fast horses can win slow races but slow horses can't win fast races.

    As I said, I'm not sure of the solidity of my figures but TWE's time rating for the other day was faster than Presenting Percy's in the RSA and only just shy of Might Bite's.

    Then again, I'm not getting much right these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    ruby going to limerick on the 26th to ride Getabird - sign that he is a very good horse maybe
    They want Townend to win the jockeys title so he prob has more runners @ Leopardstown.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauto Abu View Post
    They want Townend to win the jockeys title so he prob has more runners @ Leopardstown.


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    Had thought that but no guarantee of winners at Leop where all the best horses will be
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    Getabird may well have to be exceptional.

    I'm a huge fan of Santini and he did well the other week in what is now one of the strongest heats of the season but his time was pedestrian.

    Fast horses can win slow races but slow horses can't win fast races.

    As I said, I'm not sure of the solidity of my figures but TWE's time rating for the other day was faster than Presenting Percy's in the RSA and only just shy of Might Bite's.

    Then again, I'm not getting much right these days.
    Santini form was franked nicely with Rockys Treasure hosing up at Doncaster.

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    The Worlds End also going for the Kauto Star. What a race.

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    Looking forward to Vinndiction at Ascot tomorrow. Love Lil Rockerfella, but doubt he can give weight on soft ground and over a trip short of his best

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggers1972 View Post
    Santini form was franked nicely with Rockys Treasure hosing up at Doncaster.
    Yes. As I said, I'm a huge fan of Santini. Good races won in slow times often means the winners have more speed than the opponents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post

    (And before the race I'd dismissed TWE as never impressing me.)
    I always had him down as a non stayer and thought he was better at 2m5f...still inclined to think he'd be better in the JLT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonjers View Post
    The Worlds End also going for the Kauto Star. What a race.
    It isn't in his entries. Hasn't it closed by now?

    Either way, I'd maybe want to oppose it if it came out as soon as next week. Regardless of how easy last week may have looked these fast races take their toll at least in the short term and he didn't back up his seasonal debut after a fortnight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    It isn't in his entries. Hasn't it closed by now?

    Either way, I'd maybe want to oppose it if it came out as soon as next week. Regardless of how easy last week may have looked these fast races take their toll at least in the short term and he didn't back up his seasonal debut after a fortnight.
    Feltham / Kauto Star has been re-opened as only received six entries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    Either way, I'd maybe want to oppose [The Worlds End] if it came out as soon as next week. Regardless of how easy last week may have looked these fast races take their toll at least in the short term and he didn't back up his seasonal debut after a fortnight.
    Never looked like being competitive.

    I took 16/1 for the RSA after I realised how hot his last race was. My only concern is that he might target the JLT or 4-miler instead but I'll be surprised if there is a better novice in these islands. Tom George is on record as saying he rates him a proper stayer but he clearly is not short of speed. It looks like he just needs time between races.
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    Not sure it's a good crop of novice chasers at all
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    if only there was a horse that was highly impressive as an unbeaten novice hurdler and was bred to be a chaser kicking about......

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesRB View Post
    if only there was a horse that was highly impressive as an unbeaten novice hurdler and was bred to be a chaser kicking about......
    My thoughts exactly. Think they've made their bed now though.

    As wide open an Arkle as I can remember for Some time.

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    Delta Work is a nice horse

    Tidy jumping style, doesn't sky his fences, very economical

    Stayed on well too. It's a long run in
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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