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    Northumberland Plate 2018

    A little preview I did so may as well post it here to kick off the thread.

    As well as being one of the richest handicaps in the modern day world, The Northumberland Plate holds a special place in the hearts of racing enthusiasts especially in the Northeast. The staying contest was first held in the 1833 and soon became known as the Pitmen’s Derby, as it established itself as an important race in the lives of local miners.

    My grandfather Tommy Haskin, a pitmen miner who lived in an old mining village in the area of Gosforth, sadly wasn’t born soon enough to witness the first ever winner, Tomboy in 1833, and unfortunately for him, passed away too soon to witness double winning Northumberland Plate winner, Tominator, in 2011 and 2013. I reckon he would have backed both!

    The 2018 renewal will be only the third running on the all-weather Tapeta surface.

    At this early stage, some three weeks before off time with around a hundred horses entered, the showcase handicap has attracted some notable entries, which includes the Tony Bloom owned, 2017 Ceserewitch winner and anti-post favourite, Withhold.

    Last year’s Plate victor, Higher Power, bids for back-to-back victories, whilst The Derby winning Godolphin team will look to go one better this time around with Natural Scenery, who finished a solid second to the aforementioned Higher Power last year.

    One lesser known horse that may have a bright future is the Seamus Durack trained Cayirli, currently quoted at 33/1 in the anti-post betting.

    He was a consistent three year old in France, that never finished out of the places in five starts, before leaving J-C Rouget’s yard for England.

    In his first season here, he finished second in The Queen Alexandra at Royal Ascot, where he ran the race of his life, trying to make all, only to get collared near the finish.

    He was subsequently off the track for 537 days, but reappeared in 2018 to win at Kempton on the all weather, at huge odds of 50/1, where he beat a good yardstick in Curbyourenthusiasm.

    After this excellent comeback he ran disappointingly in The Chester Cup on his second start, but maybe that was the bounce factor.

    He should be forgiven for that one poor run. He is an interesting outsider at this juncture.
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    I will be doing Cosmelli.
    Finished 8th last year btn about 3L and is 5lb lower i think. 33/1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marble View Post
    One lesser known horse that may have a bright future is the Seamus Durack trained Cayirli, currently quoted at 33/1 in the anti-post betting.

    He was a consistent three year old in France, that never finished out of the places in five starts, before leaving J-C Rougetís yard for England.

    In his first season here, he finished second in The Queen Alexandra at Royal Ascot, where he ran the race of his life, trying to make all, only to get collared near the finish.

    He was subsequently off the track for 537 days, but reappeared in 2018 to win at Kempton on the all weather, at huge odds of 50/1, where he beat a good yardstick in Curbyourenthusiasm.

    After this excellent comeback he ran disappointingly in The Chester Cup on his second start, but maybe that was the bounce factor.

    He should be forgiven for that one poor run. He is an interesting outsider at this juncture.
    Cayirli is entered in The Ascot Stakes next Tuesday. He apparently wants soft ground on turf. I'm hoping he runs, as he needs a prep before The Plate.
    Last edited by Marble; 13th June 2018 at 1:43 PM.

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    See what's entered/withdrawn tomorrow. I will be going along on Saturday. I will be looking to back two horses in The Plate, one win one each way, (Cayirli each way if it runs).
    Last edited by Marble; 24th June 2018 at 3:51 PM.

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    Cayirli runs on joint bottom weight at number 20 on the list of runners. I fancy him to out-run his odds, (40/1 Ladbrokes/Corals). It's an open race, I'd be delighted with the potential place returns though. I'd have preferred that he had a recent prep run in a lesser race, (he has had entries, but kept being withdrawn at declaration stages). An each way chance nevertheless. He has a good record on all weather surfaces.
    Last edited by Marble; 28th June 2018 at 4:37 PM.

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    A good card I think...the first four races look very good betting heats. Volatile can win the opener to get me off to a flyer on track!
    Last edited by Marble; 29th June 2018 at 10:51 AM.

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    472 views but just 6 replies! Without contributions from posters the over talkative amongst us just give up!
    Last edited by Marble; 30th June 2018 at 4:26 AM.

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    EC had a point. Forums should be a team sport.

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    After tomorrow I'll just let the lurkers lurk on..

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    You Geordies are so touchy!

    If Withhold is to get to the Melbourne Cup he wins a scruffy handicap tomorrow.
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    I'm half cockney half Geordie actually in terms of time spent in both places, but yeah we will see about Withhold.
    Last edited by Marble; 30th June 2018 at 4:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marble View Post
    I'm half cockney half Geordie actually in terms of time spent in both places, but it yeah we will see about Withhold.
    Not sure I'd be boasting about that. See you on Love Island.
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    (sorry )
    Last edited by Marble; 30th June 2018 at 5:21 AM.

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    In all seriousness, Tony Bloom badly wants a MC contender. Both Withhold and Penhill are 10lb light at the moment and need to get there quite quickly.
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    Cayirli each way, ,Archie?
    Last edited by Marble; 29th June 2018 at 7:58 PM.

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    I don't mind backing one to win one each way.
    Last edited by Marble; 29th June 2018 at 8:20 PM.

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    People have had other things on their minds, marble. World Cup/England/Whoever's-playing-England , so I wouldn't be too concerned about replies. At least people are reading the thread!

    I only did the race today hence no reply.

    Good luck with yours. Can't see it being involved myself. It;s too high class a race for it.

    Archie's words about the Withhold situation are interesting, though. I have noted in my own piece that the Ebor or Melbourne Cup might be on the agenda but that tomorrow might just be the first step in the prep. I'm not sure what the dates are for qualifying for Oz.
    Two's company, three's allowed.

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    True True, DO.

    I've been a few times to the track on this day and landed the Plate winner a few times. Cayirli is just a sporting selection- nothing else - but a first four finish would like a good priced winner in it's own right.

    I've stronger odds-chances in the first three races..see how I go.
    Last edited by Marble; 30th June 2018 at 4:23 AM.

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