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    Violence at English Race Meetings

    I note with interest a recent tendency for group violence to break out at English race meetings. (ref Goodwood, Ascot.)
    The protagonists, in the main, seem to be well presented young men apparently with some pent up aggression to dissipate.

    Can anybody help me understand why gangs of young men want to beat the sh!t out of each other at the gee gees?
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    Because they're arseholes trying to act laddish and it gets out of hand.

    Maybe someone just tells them straight, a suit out of Next will never look good on them or anybody. If they want to look smart they need to go to a proper tailor.

    Seriously, though, I'm sure a psychiatrist would have a field day with this one. They're surrounded by tarts who dress like they're going to My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding and they want to impress. They're like deer banging their antlers off each other to get to bang the tarts.
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    It's been suggested that rival football fans, tanked up and after a sniff of the white stuff in the cubicles as well, are quite often the instigators. It's not a new thing, there was a set to at Newbury quite a while back where rival Cardiff and Swansea fans were the root cause. It's just a reflection of society today I'm afraid and older gentleman dressed as security guards are no deterrent. Racecourses are making a decent profit from alcohol sales and seem not to care about the reputation racing is quickly acquiring.

    I don't think anyone will solve this problem in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Geezer View Post
    It's been suggested that rival football fans, tanked up and after a sniff of the white stuff in the cubicles as well, are quite often the instigators. It's not a new thing, there was a set to at Newbury quite a while back where rival Cardiff and Swansea fans were the root cause. It's just a reflection of society today I'm afraid and older gentleman dressed as security guards are no deterrent. Racecourses are making a decent profit from alcohol sales and seem not to care about the reputation racing is quickly acquiring.

    I don't think anyone will solve this problem in the near future.
    pretty much the way i see it. word for word.

    talk of increased police security at racedays and sniffer dogs. will racecourses fork out for this kind of security though? i'm not convinced.

    it's a sad state of affairs.

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    Just a new place for the football idiots to hang out,that moron tommy robinson was at ascot or goodwood a while back,can only get worse and worse especially if they are the ones already banned from football grounds,it's an easy meet up [point plenty of venues the shape of things to come..good if you want an overpriced bag of Charlie no doubt..

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    The whole drug thing never even occurred to me. I can see the possibilities.
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    When all the urinals are free and all the cubicles are taken you know it's the white stuff involved.
    Sniffer dogs would work.

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    Think a cheap suit makes them a Conor McGregor
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggers1972 View Post
    When all the urinals are free and all the cubicles are taken you know it's the white stuff involved.
    Sniffer dogs would work.
    apparently some places are already using sniffer dogs. can't see i've seen any at a raceday myself yet.

    what i heard was they only use them to check bags though and not pockets so pretty much a pointless exercise atm.

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    I've never seen a sniffer dog at a racecourse either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
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    Think a cheap suit makes them a Conor McGregor
    And the suits are almost certainly not cheap!
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    Seems to be mainly a southern thing at the moment. You can certainly see a problem at Newbury. Coach parties from the London area and South Wales have been using it as a neutral venue for thirty years or more.

    Maybe it will give some courses pause for thought about these after racing events that they push so hard.
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    There were sniffer dogs at Ascot on Friday evening, but not sure they were sniffing for and they did not come anywhere near me...

    The white stuff is definitely a major factor, plus stewards are either students on £5p/h or the bowler hat brigade. Both quite rightly should not be getting involved in brawls. The racecourse need to be paying for additional policing and proper security if they want to promote it as a party

    you will not see me any where a UK racecourse on a Saturday this summer...

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    My experience of the bowler-hat-brigade at Ascot is that they are a bunch of snobby, officious little jobsworths who seem to think their bowler hat makes them in some way superior. They do nothing to improve the race-day experience of the paying customer.
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    I agree to an extent DO, but one use to let me into Royal Ascot for free, so they're not all bad

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    Getting into a scrap when you're coked-up completely misses the point of getting coked-up.

    Eejits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    Getting into a scrap when you're coked-up completely misses the point of getting coked-up.
    I wouldn't know...
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    Lingfield has been known to have stewards / private security... patrolling Saturday nights... it kicks off regular .. but the security has done fcuk all . when i,ve been there ... ..........with Tommy

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    Is it definitely a new phenomenon or has social media publicised it?

    Also, is it pre organised or just a bunch of mindless goons v likewise

    Hopefully this doesn't count as me posting on the flat.
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    Coincidentally as this thread was being posted yesterday, there was a documentary (on C5 I think ) about the GWR company and it showed trains from London heading for the Cheltenham Festival with a high percentage of passengers getting tanked up en route to the races and therein is another factor.

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