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Thread: Ante-Post Punting Plans/Propositions Thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaumi View Post
    Same race - Bowtogreatness. 16-1. Was entered up for Saturday's race at Ascot but appears to be going to Kempton instead. BP fancied his chances for Newbury last Dec but couldn't get him ready, then ran poorly in the Mandarin.

    What worries me is the entry in the NH Chase (big price, fancied him to run well in this for some time). Has about a 16 day gap, should be OK but possibly won't want a hard race at Kempton.
    On my radar too, partly because of the form of the yard and partly because it was the trainer's nomination as one to watch in the Timeform 50 book.

    Trainer: "... on his best form he could be progressive."

    I don't know if that's code for anything but his hurdler to follow is/was Tellherthename, which I backed in the Betfair last week not knowing it was his nominee: "... a lovely horse with a big future."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    Same race - I've taken 25/1 Hidden Heroics

    Skelton has three entries and, of the other two, Flegmatik has won his target race and Shan Blue was off for his life on Saturday there so might not run. HH only needs four to come out, which looks very likely, so I'm working on the assumption - perhaps a big assumption - that HH has been trained for this all season. He's been held up in rear in most of his races but ran from the front in his career best run at Cheltenham last year. I'm not convinced he'd make the cut for any of the festival handicaps off his mark so if they are going for one there he'd probably need to win this anyway. All ifs and buts but I'd rather take 25s about an ifs-and-buts situation than 2/5.
    Kicking myself black and blue.

    I'd thought the card I was looking at this morning was the five-day decs.

    Turns out I'd jumped the gun and the horse hasn't been declared

    Bad enough throwing money away on one that runs badly but this was a schoolboy error. Puts me on the back foot straight away for Saturday's punting and it's all my own stupid fault.
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    And me.doh.

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    MOREBATTLE HURDLE.KELSO

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    Eyeing up Tahmuras for the Pendil. Nickelback short enough with a boffo penalty to shoulder.

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    I'd hold back until final declarations on that one, Euro.

    Off his current mark he could be a plate horse for next month, and if he is, he won't be going for this.

    Speaking of the Plate, the one who beat Tahmuras last time, Crebilly, must also be interesting, given he only went up a pound for that win at Exeter.

    If I was taking on the fav this Saturday, I'd be looking at Le Patron, who Gary Moore has said will likely skip cheltenham next month, so you'd think he's a likely runner here. That wasn't his true showimg last time. I reckon he's better than that.
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    My main motivation was taking on Nickleback. What happened last time though, it's a trifle off putting?

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    Le Patron was on the go from early October, and won those three races on the bounce. I just think he didn't put his best foot forward the last day. The fact they aren't giving him a couple months off the track tells me he should be ready to go this time. That last run is keeping his price honest, is one way of looking at it.

    Either that, or he turns out to be just another horse I thought had potential that turned out to be shite.

    I've had more than my fair share of these this season, so if you want to be against him, be against him, by all means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    Eyeing up Tahmuras for the Pendil. Nickelback short enough with a boffo penalty to shoulder.
    He's not entered for the Plate, so this increases his chance of running on Saturday.

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    Nickle not declared today.

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    Surprising. I didn't back Tahmuras unfortunately.

    EDIT. The above rectified. He's 4s at Powers and I'd have him fav or second in behind Le Patron. The Hendo mare's form is nowhere near the required standard and I'm not keen on Blow my Wad.
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    Back in May 2022 on the "ones to follow " thread I put up SKYCUTTER when Ben Curtis hurt his shoulder and I had thought it was a non trier.
    Runs in the Morebattle on Saturday now trained by Skelton (won last time,didn't register with me) so off 121 I've took 10/1 boosted to 11/1 ladbrokes.
    Not entered at Cheltenham.

    I see Nicky Henderson is going for the bonus with Under Controll.so must be respected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    Same race - I've taken 25/1 Hidden Heroics

    Skelton has three entries and, of the other two, Flegmatik has won his target race and Shan Blue was off for his life on Saturday there so might not run. HH only needs four to come out, which looks very likely, so I'm working on the assumption - perhaps a big assumption - that HH has been trained for this all season. He's been held up in rear in most of his races but ran from the front in his career best run at Cheltenham last year. I'm not convinced he'd make the cut for any of the festival handicaps off his mark so if they are going for one there he'd probably need to win this anyway. All ifs and buts but I'd rather take 25s about an ifs-and-buts situation than 2/5.
    Runs in the Grimthorpe tomorrow (16/1). Sickness insurance a must...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outsider View Post
    Back in May 2022 on the "ones to follow " thread I put up SKYCUTTER when Ben Curtis hurt his shoulder and I had thought it was a non trier.
    Runs in the Morebattle on Saturday now trained by Skelton (won last time,didn't register with me) so off 121 I've took 10/1 boosted to 11/1 ladbrokes.
    Not entered at Cheltenham.

    I see Nicky Henderson is going for the bonus with Under Controll.so must be respected.
    A profit.ended up 7/2 fav.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    [Hidden Heroics] ... Runs in the Grimthorpe tomorrow (16/1). Sickness insurance a must...
    Looked like it was struggling in the ground. Never getting into the race from early and eventually pulled up. I didn't expect Doncaster to get as much rain as it did.

    A lot of the form today won't be repeated until the conditions are repeated.
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    Willie Mullins to win the British trainers title. 10/1

    After he has trained 14 winners and ten placed at the Cheltenham Festival,the Midlands grand national and the Grand National with Stattler he won't be far away.

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    Currently, approx
    £2220k Nicholls
    £298k Mullins

    Winners money
    £250k Champion Hurdle
    £225k Champion Chase
    £350k Gold Cup
    £500k Grand National
    plus
    Cheltenham novice hurdles - about £75k, novice chases - up to £100k, mares races - about £60k.

    Certainly conceivable that, if he has a successful Cheltenham, WPM sends horses to Aintree and/or Sandown that would otherwise have gone to Fairyhouse and Punchestown.
    The older I get the better I was.

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    Taken 66/1 Sudden Ambush for the Lincoln (BF) 5pl
    Runs 3.15W today

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    Greatgadian. 33/1 5 places. LINCOLN.

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