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    I was pleased to see On A Session kept in the Bunbury today.

    He's 28th in the list for the race.

    So I'm hoping he will either just make the cut to get a run, or be declared/balloted out so that I can get my stakes back.

    Worst case scenario is he's taken out on Thursday.
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    I was really impressed with how Point Lonsdale dug deep to win at Royal Ascot.

    I'll back him at some stage during the winter for either the 2000 Guineas or the Derby or both of the above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marb View Post
    I was pleased to see On A Session kept in the Bunbury today.

    He's 28th in the list for the race.

    So I'm hoping he will either just make the cut to get a run, or be declared/balloted out so that I can get my stakes back.

    Worst case scenario is he's taken out on Thursday.
    He was declared early today, no. 16 on the list.

    I'm not expecting much but just pleased I should get a run for my money.

    My wager is at a quarter the odds the first four places.
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    Seeking prices for Luxembourg for 2022 Derby.

    I know, I know. But taking performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marb View Post
    I was really impressed with how Point Lonsdale dug deep to win at Royal Ascot.

    I'll back him at some stage during the winter for either the 2000 Guineas or the Derby or both of the above.
    Won nicely yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkWing View Post
    Seeking prices for Luxembourg for 2022 Derby.

    I know, I know. But taking performance.
    Have taken 33s. Have watched back a few times and remain impressed.
    Last edited by HawkWing; 18th August 2021 at 7:48 PM.

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    Had a few anti's recently.

    Creative Force 10/1 Sprint Cup. With Dragon Symbol apparently going to Ireland this race lacks depth behind Starman and the Godolphin animal looks solid for a place.

    Great Ambassador 8/1 Ayr Gold Cup. Very tracker worthy coming out of the Stewards Cup he won like a very well handicapped horse next time at Newmarket. Hopefully the ground will be ok.

    Astro King 20/1 Cambs. This horse doesn't stay 10f and yet just seems to find one or two too good over a mile. The Cambs trip looks ideal and he loves a straight track.

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    I really like Great Ambassador for Ayr but decided against a punt for now because of the price. I thought he might still be 8s at the five-day or final dec stage.
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    I've done CHIEFOFCHIEFS 25/1 ayr gold cup.

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    With little rain forecast through Saturday, Haydock promises decent ground for the Sprint Cup, I've taken an ew punt on Art Power at Betfair's 15/2.
    Didn't last home at on soft at Ascot, and similar when contesting a suicidal pace in the July Cup. Supremacy, out there with him, finished a remote 17th.
    Has less than 2l to find with Starman, and has every chance of doing so on this sharper tack.

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    Maybe I should add that Starman is a ridiculous price for this, and needs taking on. Fast ground is not a given, the furious pace of the July Cup unlikely, and no uphill finish to bring the field back to him; none of which those raving about him seem to have taken account of.
    Absolute lay, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post

    Great Ambassador 8/1 Ayr Gold Cup. Very tracker worthy coming out of the Stewards Cup he won like a very well handicapped horse next time at Newmarket. Hopefully the ground will be ok.
    Great Ambassador runs in the 3.15 at York on Sunday, which is a listed race. I'm not sure how that will affect his chance for the Ayr Gold Cup in terms of his rating and possible weight for Ayr?

    Coincidently, the horse who was fourth the last day behind Great Ambassador, called First Folio, runs half an hour or so before off the top weight in a six furlong handicap at York.

    All things considered I just wonder if First Folio will make anti post odds of 20/1 for the Ayr Gold Cup look too big after his run this Sunday?

    He's an improving sort who has paid his way thus far since moving to new trainer James Ferguson yard after he was gelded.

    He reportedly ran poorly in the stewards cup on very soft ground so with all his best form on good or firmer I think connections probably gave an honest answer for the poor showing at Goodwood.

    He could put himself right in the Ayr Gold Cup picture this Sunday if he can score off the top weight.

    The horse he beat when giving 7lb in weight at York, called Blackrod, has franked the form nicely since when winning two decent handicaps on the bounce.

    So hence both of these races concerning the aforementioned Great Ambassador and First Folio are of interest this Sunday.

    As I've mentioned James Ferguson, I should note down that after looking at the Ceserewitch I'm really taken by his progressive and consistent improver Snowalot.

    He's kept improving on turf, now on a mark of 85, (which will more than likely make the cut comfortably for the ceserewitch, judged on recent renewals). He's my early recommendation for the race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marb View Post
    Great Ambassador will run in the 3.15 at York on Sunday, which is a listed race. I'm not sure how that will affect his chance for the Ayr Gold Cup.
    I'm not surprised. The trainer isn't bad but he's one of those who just makes bad decisions with his horses. This is a completely pointless entry.

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    Bit harsh, Euro. He won the York race with Starman last year and I guess he’s worried that Great Ambassador will lose his ground if the rains come. Like Marb I’m not sure how winning at York will affect his Ayr weight. Mind you, he does see his geese as swans most of the time
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    Great Ambassador isn't as ground dependent as Royal Scimitar (who also runs at the weekend and is a bet)

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    Dragon Symbol heads over to Ireland for the Flying Five and I make him a bet at 9/2. He holds Glass Slippers on Goodwood running and I can't really have Winter Power on a stiffer track than York.

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    Next weekend is possibly the best of the flat season-I am looking forward to getting stuck in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    I'm not surprised. The trainer isn't bad but he's one of those who just makes bad decisions with his horses. This is a completely pointless entry.
    Well well. Your horse won impressively today. My best guess is he'd carry at least a 6lb penalty now for Ayr?
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    Maybe they think a penalty won't stop him at Ayr.
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    Yeah exactly.

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