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    Stormy Daniels

    Way to go girl

    You have to hand it to Trump, he just keeps delivering

    She's now filed a deposition against him and Michael Cohen it seems

    As one American commentator put it "why is it other countries don't have leaders who get sued by porn stars?"
    Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly. _ Harry Limes

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    Bunga bunga

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warbler View Post
    As one American commentator put it "why is it other countries don't have leaders who get sued by porn stars?"
    Because we have a leader who is a porn star.

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    Alba Gu Brath!

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    Her twitter feed is very entertaining
    ROLL ON THE RESISTANCE !!!

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    Not as entertaining as Michael Avenetti's

    I should say this particular case seems to have taken a turn for the funny again. I can only assume that Rudy Guiliani was desperate to avoid Trump perjuring himself and decided to eliminate the risk for him. Campaign finance regs seems to have been other big risk, though I remain open-minded on whether this has been breached. Rudy's opinion doesn't constitute case law.

    The big question of course is just how many more NDA's Trump has in place. My own suspicion is that he's subjected his own wife to one
    Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly. _ Harry Limes

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    Guilliani is defined as an "It's all about me"-type individual in Comey's new book, based on their time together in the Manhattan DA's office........which probably explains why a) Rudy felt the need to call Comey a "liar" in the Fox News interview, and b) why he is so keen on a fellow narcissist like Trumpet.

    Guilliaini seems like a shadow of the guy who helped NYC through the post-9/11 crisis........verging on unhinged.
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    While I've found Guilliani's politics opportunistic to say the least, I thought his contribution to handling the 9/11 crisis was to be admired.
    He really has gone completely off the rails since then.

    Calling the Mueller investigators and the southern district of New York DA's office (of which he was once a member) storm troopers is beyond the pale.
    Watching his "conversation" with Hannity is more than cringe worthy

    Seems like everybody that gets in Trump's orbit is poisoned beyond repair.
    Most likely this derangement was always lurking just beneath the surface and Trump has just helped bring it out in the open.

    Chris Cuomo, part of New York royalty, who hosts New Day on CNN and knows him well and has respect for the guy, was totally baffled and saddened on air today as to how this turn of events was even possible.
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    It's almost certainly the case that the FBI have picked up enough evidence from their raid on Cohen's office/ hotel/ home, to blow apart Trump's explanation that he knew nothing about the payment. That being so, Trump's team had little option. They could either continue peddling their lie and look even more stupid when it was exposed, or get a willing stooge like Rudy to come clean and endure 48 hrs of bad publicity but probably draw the sting which would otherwise be involved with having it come out in court with all the attendant implications of perjury
    Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly. _ Harry Limes

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    Would appear that NBC are now reporting that the FBI had been wire tapping Michael Cohen. Suffice to say Giuliani has blown a gasket and called it illegal and heaven knows what else

    I can't help wondering if Rudy has missed a few things in his emotional reaction though?

    This referral to New York's southern district came from Robert Mueller. He came into something which needn't be within the compass of the special counsel, but which he felt was evidence of a crime. Michael Cohens name (like that of Carter Page) cropped up the Christopher Steele dossier. In Cohen's case there was a quite specific reference to a secret meeting he was alleged to have attended in Prague with a hacking team working to Russian direction. Cohen of course has denied this, and tried to present his passport as evidence he'd never been to the Czech Republic. Well in the first case if its in Schengen area he wouldn't get a passport stamp anyway provided he entered through another country. Worth noting that when FBI seized Paul Manafort's material they found eight different passports (or something like that - Manafort's password was Bond007 incidentally - gives you some idea as to the mind-set of these characters). It's also been noted of course that Cohen's daughter had posted pictures on her Facebook page that placed her Italy during this period. Anyway, I digress, there was a report doing the rounds a month ago that Mueller had unearthed evidence that Cohen was in Germany at broadly the time that Steele reported the Czech meeting to have taken place. Smoke and mirrors of course, and that's the last we heard of it

    If I'm joining the dots up though, it seems to indicate that the FBI have used a FISA warrant against Michael Cohen, and its this which has allowed to wire tap him, in which case they will have acted legally, and Rudy Giuliani is barking up the wrong tree. During the process of this surveillance they've come into evidence about money laundering, bank fraud, wire fraud, and the Stormy Daniels case which Mueller has then referred to New York's southern district
    Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly. _ Harry Limes

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    All fine and well this Giuliani nonesense but tell me what I really am most curious to hear from you, is Cracksman going to be better than Enable
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    Stormy Daniels is a sight more interesting than any bloody racehorse, and especially a pair that you're hardly going to get rich on. Find the 20/1 winner of the 0-70 handicap at Leicester instead, it pays more than any Gp1 superstar
    Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly. _ Harry Limes

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    No wonder you packed it in, not always about the betting.
    I will give you that SD is a sight more interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warbler View Post
    especially a pair that you're hardly going to get rich on.
    She has!

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    She's about $500,000 short on her crowd funding target to continue her action. Unless Michael Avenatti is prepared to go Pro Bona she might run out of dough yet.

    Avenatti tweeted this again in the last few hours

    There are no PACs, no political party, no special interests, no fat cat donors, no secret club, and no aliens covering the costs of our legal fight. Period. If anyone has evidence to the contrary, they should present it now. Otherwise, pipe down. Go to
    http://crowdjustice.org
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    Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly. _ Harry Limes

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    This one's just taken another twist in the last hour as Stormy Daniels has filed a case against Keith Davidson (her former attorney) alleging involvement with Trump

    Allow me to fill in anyone who hasn't been keeping up to speed

    Davidson represented Daniels in the negotiation of the $130,000 settlement and DNA (non-disclosure agreement). Michael Cohen represented Trump. It's long been a subject of speculation as to why Daniels got such a poor deal and low pay-out.

    Daniels ultimately withdrew instruction from Davidson and engaged Michael Avenatti (a publicity shy attorney from LA).

    For the past few weeks Avenatti has been teeing up Davidson as having played a questionable role in negotiating his client a suspiciously poor detrimental settlement and encouraging her to accept disadvantageous terms.

    There are only three possible explanations I can see for Davidsons performance

    1: Incompetance (it isn't illegal to be not very good at your job)
    2: Coersion through intimidation and ultimately capitulation
    3: Collusion

    The first doesn't seem that likely. I'm pretty certain (IIRC) that Davidson represented Karen McDougall against Trump in another NDA case. McDougall had a 10 month affair, Stormy Daniels a one night stand. Davidson succeeded in getting McDougall a significant payment however. This must weigh as evidence that he knew what the market rate for silence 2 weeks before polling day was

    This leaves the other two options

    Did Michael Cohen and/ or other individuals from the Trump orbit threaten Keith Davidson to the point where he felt sufficiently intimidated to persuade his client to accept a poor deal? That could be Davidson's best explanation, as the alternative one (and the one that Daniels appears to be alleging) is that Donald Trump has paid Keith Davidson a commission to persuade his client to accept a detrimental deal. In any other language its called bribery, and quite possibly obstruction of justice (albeit this is a civil settlement rather than a criminal one) so I wouldn't be certain

    It's worth noting that Avenatti has periodically released a few emails between Michael Cohen and Keith Davidson suggesting that he has access to them. It's also widely believed that when the FBI did a 'no knock' raid on Cohen's office they were able to capture 17 cell phones and numerous hard drives with 3 million emails on them

    Earlier today Avenatti tweeted a weather forecast "there's a storm coming". If they've got evidence that Davidson entered into an agreement with Trump to corrupt a payment in his favour, Trump has a problem. Davidson is bound to get debarred unless he can somehow implicate Trump as having acted with menace and threat (in which case he might get a lesser sentence). He's going to make for an interesting witness
    Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly. _ Harry Limes

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    Ah yes but remember Trump could have shot Comey and then pardoned himself.
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    Avenatti has just tweeted a subtle hint which you might need to decode the nuance of in order to work out where he feels the balance of likelihoods regarding Davidson might lie

    "
    Keith Davidson should have been charged after his arrest for extortion not long ago. He is a disgrace to the profession. Watch him now try and distract away from his own unethical conduct. Ms. Daniels deserved better.
    https:/""
    Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly. _ Harry Limes

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    Seems like Michael Cohen is on the look out for new legal representatives as of tonight. It's not immediately clear what's happened, but either he's withdrawn instruction, or they've taken the view they no longer want to represent him
    Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly. _ Harry Limes

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    Within the last few hours we might have had a significant development on this one which could begin to unravel spectacularly. I'll try and explain it, as it becomes a bit complicated if you haven't following things

    Shera Bechard (plaintiff) has filed sealed charges against Elliot Broidy, Keith Davidson, and Michael Avenatti, plus 20 other Does (a Doe as in John or Jane Doe is standard legal shorthand for anonymous/ unnamed)

    Let me fill you

    Shera Bechard is yet another former playboy playmate (someone seems to be targeting them) who was under an NDA (non disclosure agreement) about a relationship she had with Elliott Broidy (Californian GOP finance chair and very wealthy businessman) which resulted in Ms Bechard becoming pregnant and having a termination. Broidy agreed to pay her $200,000 in eight installments in return for her silence, but has seemingly indicated he's no longing willing to, and won't be making the third payment. All this sounds run of the mill so far, but it's worth putting some of the pieces together

    Keith Davidson was her original solicitor who brokered this agreement from her side. Davidson is a Californian attorney whose principal line of business is celebrity blackmail cases. He came to notoriety with the Hulk Hogan sex tape, but also represented Karen McDougall (another playboy playmate) in her 'catch and kill' story with the National Enquirer and Stormy Daniels in her NDA. Both ladies of course allege relationships with Donald Trump, and both subsequently sacked Davidson who they eventually came to realise was working against their interests, but was instead colluding with Michael Cohen (Trump's so-called personal fixer and occasional attorney). Cohen is a qualified attorney but hardly does any substantive legal work and has very few cases on record. When forced to declare his client list by the NYSD he only had three (Trump, Broidy and Hannity)

    Anyway, a few months ago Michael Avanetti whilst discussing the Stormy case on MSNBC teased the following

    I think at some point we are going to find out, if in fact the client in connection with the [$1.6 million] settlement was, in fact, Mr. Broidy, Im going to leave it at that.

    Last night on Twitter Avenatti was cryptic again when responding to news of the identity of Cohen's latest attorney

    "The info he has (Cohen) is far too critical to the country... For instance, imagine if people later discover that he had info relating to Trump's true "beliefs" re Roe yet did nothing"

    The reference to 'Roe' is the landmark Supreme Court ruling Roe v Wade on a woman's right to abortion. Amongst Republicans and evangelicals this is a serious hot button electoral issue, out ranked only by that of the second amendment (the right to bear arms) in the irrational barmy league table of emotive issues. Roe v Wade is likely to be under threat again with the appointment of a new supreme justice

    Starting to lose the thread myself a bit now

    Anyway, there would be little obvious reason for Broidy to reach out to Cohen as regards handling the Bechard NDA. Broidy himself has convictions for bribing public officials and a history of buying in top legal counsel. Cohen is Donald Trump fixer and a barely qualified attorney. He's also a New Yorker, Broidy a Californian. They might have met in GOP circles (it's widely accepted that they would have done) but that still wouldn't make Cohen your 'go to man'. What is also suspicious is the sheer size of the payment. $1.6m, for a man who was hardly known (even in California) and whose reputation (if one exists at all) is based on questionable business deals rather than maintaining a public image

    So here's the hypothesis

    Broidy didn't have a relationship with Bechard. It wasn't Broidy who got her pregnant. Neither was it Broidy who forced her into a termination. It was Donald Trump

    Davidson contacted Cohen, who then set about arranging an NDA and a mechanism to pay Bechard. Cohen couldn't make any payments that tied himself or Trump to Bechard or Davidson. Instead they needed someone else to claim to have been the person concerned, and Becahrd needed to corroborate this in return for the money. Broidy has the means to make the payment, no history of philandering, a wife who seems equally obsessed with money and acquiring influence, and so to them at least, it looks like a decent transaction. They get some investigations which could jeopardise their own investment activities in Malaysia dropped, and they make about $40m as a result. In return Elliott Broidy, who admitted to making the payment to Bechard straight away when challenged (which kind of defeats the object of paying push money!) agrees to pay Becahrd and claim that it was he who made her pregnant

    So why has Broidy stopped paying her?

    Well because the FBI have raided Cohen's office, recovered his phones, recovered his shredded documents, and got his hard drives. As they comb through this, they discover that its Trump who has made Becahrd pregnant and that Cohen has persuaded Broidy to take the fall (remember Cohen only named three clients in the NYSD disclosure). How the hell, or why on earth, has Broidy even ended up as a Cohen client

    With this news likely to break, and Cohen showing signs that he's likely to be co-operating with the Feds very shortly, Broidy has decided to end the arrangement and refuse to make future instalments. Bechard can suddenly see a lot of money she was hoping to make on the back of her abortion turning to dust and has issued proceedings against the plaintiffs named (plus about 20 others who I assume are journalists)
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