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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardross View Post
    I think just about all of the posts miss the point. The requirement is that there is equal pay for work of equal value - hence the tribunal will look at the levels of skill required not physical strength.

    Thus it is difficult to see how warehouse work is intrinsically more skilled than shelf stacking and working on the tills unless evidence is provided.

    The traditional and most obvious example is that finally the women at Fords making upholstery were given the same pay as men doing equally skilled work.

    So no the world has not gone bonkers it is about fair reward for work of equal value.
    That's the same spurios reasoning they're basing the action on.
    Train them, let them switch roles, and measure their contribution then.

    Fwiw, I have run highly automated warehouses, and had a good look around Tesco's main distribution centre.
    Almost without exception, there is a heavy preponderamce of male labour employed within them - not without very good reason.

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    I saw a video recently and it looked like the Tesco Checkout girls are getting more than reasonable treatment...well at least on their lunch hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Phillips View Post
    Talking about gender equality is anyone else put out at being practically force-fed women’s sport by Sky and the BBC.

    Probably sexist to say but I find it all a bit average.

    BBC also guilty of force-feeding us the Winter Olympics. I just don’t care.
    Could not agree more. Bar Tennis I can't think of any women's sport that is worth watching.

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    Women's UFC is good (not as much depth)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euronymous View Post
    Women's UFC is good (not as much depth)
    Some awful mismatches, paper champions.

    Not for me
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    Quick update on where I am at the moment -was meant to press the button in Feb but my boss was very sick -he looked like he was at deaths door-just couldn't go through with it.Eventually filled out the legal forms in early April but didn't put them in his hands until the 1st of June.Legally he should have organised mediation by the 1st of July but he is currently on holidays and hasn't done anything about it.Went over his head last week and was told that I am being reasonable and he hasn't done his job properly.
    At the moment I'm thinking I could win this without a shot being fired.

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    Let’s hope so - burying his head in the sand is not the way to go....


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    Thanks Trudi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUKE View Post
    Quick update on where I am at the moment -was meant to press the button in Feb but my boss was very sick -he looked like he was at deaths door-just couldn't go through with it.Eventually filled out the legal forms in early April but didn't put them in his hands until the 1st of June.Legally he should have organised mediation by the 1st of July but he is currently on holidays and hasn't done anything about it.Went over his head last week and was told that I am being reasonable and he hasn't done his job properly.
    At the moment I'm thinking I could win this without a shot being fired.
    If that is a verbatim quote then you are 1.01. You are going like Harchibald halfway up the run in - double handful.
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    Straight up that is exactly what was said to me.I think they will offer me the increase that I am looking for in September as long as I don’t pursue the 2 years backpay -I would be happy with this if they sign something saying that I will not be victimised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUKE View Post
    Quick update on where I am at the moment -was meant to press the button in Feb but my boss was very sick -he looked like he was at deaths door-just couldn't go through with it.Eventually filled out the legal forms in early April but didn't put them in his hands until the 1st of June.Legally he should have organised mediation by the 1st of July but he is currently on holidays and hasn't done anything about it.Went over his head last week and was told that I am being reasonable and he hasn't done his job properly.
    At the moment I'm thinking I could win this without a shot being fired.
    Best of luck bud
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    Quote Originally Posted by LUKE View Post
    Straight up that is exactly what was said to me.I think they will offer me the increase that I am looking for in September as long as I don’t pursue the 2 years backpay -I would be happy with this if they sign something saying that I will not be victimised.
    Don't bother with that signature. Employment Law is not like Schrodinger's cat. You will either be victimised or not victimised. If it's the former you get a new extension paid for. If it's the latter you live in peace and harmony forever.
    "And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.

    And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."

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    If they want to compromise/capitulate, you probably have them by the fu*cking Jacksons.

    Worth bearing this in mind when you decide your ultimate destiny.

    Good luck.
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    Interesting times ahead-realistically it is mine to lose-could go for a letter of the law victory and hit the jackpot or allow them to concede for an agreed amount.

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