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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    If i had a good horse, I wouldnt run it in the champ bumper
    100%. I'd avoid the Triumph and the RSA like the plague as well.
    "And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.

    And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    If i had a good horse, I wouldnt run it in the champ bumper.
    100%.

    If I had a good horse, it wouldn't be qualified for the Bumper, as it would have been winning £120K French 4yo steeplechases, and not go anywhere near Cheltenham until it was ready to win the Gold Cup.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    Quote Originally Posted by an capall View Post
    100%. I'd avoid the Triumph and the RSA like the plague as well.
    The RSA isn't the savage test it used to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    100%.

    If I had a good horse, it wouldn't be qualified for the Bumper, as it would have been winning £120K French 4yo steeplechases, and not go anywhere near Cheltenham until it was ready to win the Gold Cup.
    Yes. I reckon if I had a good one I'd be having it trained and campaigned in France.

    Just wait till I win those euromillions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggers1972 View Post
    The RSA isn't the savage test it used to be.
    The premier staying G1 novice chase and only two winners have gone on to win the GC in 30 years. That is savage enough for me.
    "And still they gazed and still the wonder grew. That one small head could carry all he knew.

    And that small head knew that Impaire Et Passe would win the Champion Hurdle."

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    Quote Originally Posted by an capall View Post
    The premier staying G1 novice chase and only two winners have gone on to win the GC in 30 years. That is savage enough for me.
    That can't be right.

    Bobs Worth and Lord Windermere were back to back RSA and Gold Cup winners. Also Looks Like Trouble and Denman.

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    Garrison Savannah too?
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    Ring Ring Ring...HI it's me your trainer..This horse of yours I think will win the bumper or there's a NHF race at Sedgefield next month...what do you think?

    Me ? have a runner at Cheltenham? no I cxouldn't possibly....I don't like the race............................Bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!! in yer dreams
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    Ring Ring Ring...HI it's me your trainer..This horse of yours I think will win the bumper or there's a NHF race at Sedgefield next month...what do you think?

    Me ? have a runner at Cheltenham? no I cxouldn't possibly....I don't like the race............................Bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!! in yer dreams
    Sounds to me like you had Micheal O'Leary on the phone.
    Eddie said he wouldn't let a good potential future chaser near the race.

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    Any idiot can say that about an immature 4 year old but let them say it about a 6 year old.

    Look back at your Arkle winners or your Feltham winners and try and find one that ran in any sort of bumper at 6 years of age.

    The potential simply isn't there and if it was they would have run a lot sooner

    Over the last 10 years excluding last year on which the jury is still out the best horse I can remember who ran at 6 in the Bumper was On His Own

    He actually won a chase at 7 years old under Brian Hughes at Musselburgh.

    Silver Concorde won the race at 6 and is probably as good as he was then but that is a rariity

    Moon Race was thought good enough to run in the CH but has been dogged by injury and to me is over faced to the hilt by Pipe.
    Formely Fist of Fury

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    I take it Patrick still gets the choice does he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBear View Post
    I take it Patrick still gets the choice does he?
    Yep
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Mister Fisher at Kempton tomorrow is supposed to be a steering job.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauto Abu View Post
    Mister Fisher at Kempton tomorrow is supposed to be a steering job.


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    In the midst of all the Cheltenham chat I hope some of you managed to get some of the 11/4 available on opening show last night.

    After a minor fright in the straight it was just hands & heels for a comprehensive win.


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    Nice one, Kauto.
    Ah! but a man's reach should exceed his grasp......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauto Abu View Post
    Mister Fisher at Kempton tomorrow is supposed to be a steering job.


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    WD Kauto, hope plenty were on - not me unfortunately but I'll sleep easy tonight on my new mattress after having been dragged/nagged out today by the wife ("you've watched racing all week you can take me shopping today")

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    Anthony Honeyball could swerve Aintree with Champion Bumper fourth Acey Milan.The five-year-old is eligible to run in the Grade Two Weatherbys Racing Bank Standard National Flat Race on April 13, but the Mosterton handler fears it could be one run too many and might even draw stumps for the season.
    Honeyball said: "We've had a look at the small print and he does qualify to run in the race, but he's been busy and he has not missed a beat this season.
    "I will talk to the owners, but I think it is unlikely he will run and it is very much on the back-burner. I imagine he won't run again this season.
    "He has won three of his five bumpers and to finish fourth in the Champion Bumper was a good effort.
    "Turning in, they just quickened up and got five lengths on him. I thought he would be sixth or seventh, but he stuck on well to be fourth."
    Honeyball plans to send Acey Milan over hurdles next season and has already earmarked the Grade One Challow Hurdle at Newbury in December as a first major target.
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    I'm not giving up on Didthyeleavuoutto and can see him running a big race in one of the other festival bumpers on better ground

    He's a bit of a talking horse, but Danny Kirwan is also one to watch out for at Aintree after bolting up at Kempton late last month

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    Agreed about Didtheyleaveyououttoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perpetual View Post
    I'm not giving up on Didthyeleavuoutto and can see him running a big race in one of the other festival bumpers on better ground

    He's a bit of a talking horse, but Danny Kirwan is also one to watch out for at Aintree after bolting up at Kempton late last month
    Certainly the talking horse of the UK at the mo.
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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