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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    That was a great race and an impressive win for Sceau Royal, looking the horse I thought I was backing for the Champion Hurdle.
    He was all the value in the race 5lb better off with North Hill Harvey - Thats why I put him up in DG's competition that never was but did the bet anyway and have a double up with Blaklion just need Cloudy Dream to perform now as Le Breuil let e down and other is n/r.
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    He's a little star Sceau Royal and was very impressive but I don't care what anyone says David Mullins GN winner or not was more of a hinderance than a help there. He was like an accident waiting to happen all the way round
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    Very impressive on the eye.

    i still have an inkling he might be a bit soft but gotta like that today
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    He's a little star Sceau Royal and was very impressive but I don't care what anyone says David Mullins GN winner or not was more of a hinderance than a help there. He was like an accident waiting to happen all the way round

    You didn't know the difference between David and Danny during the week.

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    Geezus it was a typo you plonker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    Geezus it was a typo you plonker
    I'm a contrary plonker today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkWing View Post
    Agree with this. Mimimum of fuss in the Haldon Gold Cup. Will be primed for this with Fox Norton perhaps looking to have a few pound spare for the King George. I think he is a bet.
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    Fox Norton ran on well today and he won the Melling over 2m4f eased down but Kempton at KG pace?

    It will be like someone walking into a plate glass window when he hits that invisible wall.

    His chance of staying must be remote at best IMO he is a proper 2 miler with limited ability.

    He has nowhere near enough class to win a King George and the decision to go if the do can only be Sizing John influenced.

    Give them 10/10 for trying but we went through the same thing with Sizing Europe and it never worked then and it won't work now
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    With all the Potts ruthlessness and wisdom, I'd have expected him to have picked up a top class jockey over the years
    Last edited by granger; 9th December 2017 at 6:50 PM.
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    You mean like someone who could win a Gold Cup for him ?

    Robbie Power has strike rates of 26% and 37% over the last 2 years in the UK

    I can't think of any race he should have won that he lost but am happy if you want to refresh my memory
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post
    You mean like someone who could win a Gold Cup for him ?

    Robbie Power has strike rates of 26% and 37% over the last 2 years in the UK

    I can't think of any race he should have won that he lost but am happy if you want to refresh my memory
    i could but I could for any other jock too.

    There are an elite 5 or so jocks. then a batch of good and then the rest
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    I'm not giving up on Ar Mad just yet.

    For every fence he met right he met two wrong. His jumping has to improve for him to compete at the top level and I can't see him being better than Altior but I still think he's top class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    i could but I could for any other jock too.

    There are an elite 5 or so jocks. then a batch of good and then the rest

    The Tizzards don't like Cooper and would go for Power every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUKE View Post
    The Tizzards don't like Cooper and would go for Power every time.
    That partnership looks like it will end sooner rather than later alright

    who do the Tizzards utilise mostly for their other horses?
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    I'm not giving up on Ar Mad just yet.

    For every fence he met right he met two wrong. His jumping has to improve for him to compete at the top level and I can't see him being better than Altior but I still think he's top class.
    Me neither, he has a great performance in him at top level.. but why he seemed to have lost his confidence I don't know but his jumping was getting worse with every fence yesterday..

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    Poor Bryan Cooper is buried down the bottom of a ruck at the moment. Horrific injuries, unsympathetic treatment, loss of confidence, more injury.

    He's still young and he's still got the talent, I hope he makes a big comeback.

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    Yep, Johnny Burke another.

    these young jocks have it very very tough.
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    In fairness most jockeys have it tough, at numerous points in their career

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey View Post
    In fairness most jockeys have it tough, at numerous points in their career
    In terms of being built up young, crashing a little and getting lost in the shuffle

    who is your avatar picture Art by the way?
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    If Bryan Cooper makes it back to the top of the heap he will deserve huge respect.


    The avatar picture is an old library photo of a fall in a race somewhere in Australia. I'm assured both horse and rider were ok after it.
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