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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardross View Post
    Colliver clearly bottled it - worrying about going too fast he went too slow
    No offence at all to the lad but by his own admission he's just a run of the mill jockey that's lucky to be riding a good horse

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    Quote Originally Posted by fonz View Post
    No offence at all to the lad but by his own admission he's just a run of the mill jockey that's lucky to be riding a good horse
    Yes and sadly it showed .

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    Awful ride

    race run 11s slower than the pertemps

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    I'm afraid that's what was going through my mind too. He probably thought he was doing well and being clever to get a soft lead but he was setting the race up for horses with pace.
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    If he was gaining after the last I would have had more sympathy. Looked to be taking on better horses today. Finished ahead of all the horses he beat in the Long Walk.

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    Poor ride on Sam Spinner, great training performance by Mullins with Penhill

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkWing View Post
    If he was gaining after the last I would have had more sympathy. Looked to be taking on better horses today. Finished ahead of all the horses he beat in the Long Walk.
    http://cheltenham.attheraces.com/sec...y-three-review

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    To the ratings and sectional guys on here.

    Does Penhill have gears or does he just look quick finishing against slower horses?
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    To the ratings and sectional guys on here.

    Does Penhill have gears or does he just look quick finishing against slower horses?
    He had gears - last year over the same c/d and on much kinder ground, when winning a truly run Albert Bartlett.
    Wouldn't set too much store by NH sectionals generally, but it's pretty clear Joe Colliver screwed up yesterday, in what was (relatively) the slowest run race of the day.

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    Joe Colliver may have screwed up but it doesn't make him the moral winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    To the ratings and sectional guys on here.

    Does Penhill have gears or does he just look quick finishing against slower horses?
    Penhill is a very good horse, higher (off the top of my head) for winning the Albert Bartlett than other recent winners. He was very much on my shortlist for the Stayers when I first ran off the cards but the likelihood of heavy ground first time up after a year put me off him. To be honest, I also thought Sam Spinner would beat him regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkWing View Post
    Joe Colliver may have screwed up but it doesn't make him the moral winner.
    True but it will be interesting to see if

    a) he goes faster the next time they meet
    b) Colliver keeps the ride
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    Given that he won the AB after an unlikely season and then yesterday first time out, I suspect that Penhill is quite special. I've just taken a little 50/1 for the Melbourne Cup.
    The older I get the better I was.

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    The sectional analysis suny referred us to backs up what appeared to be happening . Just compare Richard Johnson's judgment of pace today ( I don't buy the criticism of his ride on La Bague au Roi - she is a flat track bully) . A very ill-judged ride.

    Yanworth as a Christmas Hurdke winner one would have expected to have the most toe but was very disappointing.

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