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    Gamble almost landed on supasundae.

    I'm not sure mares should be getting 7lbs in Grade one's.

    Nic Canyon was lost. Very mixed week for the Mullins yard
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Sad to hear that Nichols Canyon has gone, a solid and game horse that probably did not get the praise he deserved.

    Clearly the mare should stick to the race for her gender. Please, pretty please.
    To be fair she’s a superb animal but it would be Dawn Run all over again for me if she goes in the Stayers. Back in the day I had a bet built up over several months on Wayward Lad and this time I’m loaded for bear on Supasundae at prices from 16 to 25, thankfully most ew.

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    I'm firmly in the camp that says Apples Jade should go here and will wait to hear what Eddie O'Leary says.

    An interesting potential contender, Killultagh Vic, declared in the 2m4f hurdle at Punchestown on Sunday.
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    Her class got her through yesterday, if NC hadn't suffered that accident I've no doubt he would've won. I think its even more clear AJ goes for the Mares now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aughex View Post
    Her class got her through yesterday, if NC hadn't suffered that accident I've no doubt he would've won. I think its even more clear AJ goes for the Mares now.
    How can you possibly reach that conclusion?
    Last edited by viking; 29th December 2017 at 11:52 AM.

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    Its all about form @viking. You need to analyse it a bit but I can give you a hint: check out AJ & Supasunde last 2 races against each other and make up your own mind. Also watch the replays if you have a chance and it should be clear enough.

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    My first thought after the race was whatever you do don't send her for the stayers.

    As far as NC goes there's absolutely nothing to back up saying he would have won

    Nothing but nothing was getting home yesterday and DR rode abrillinat race conserving as much energy as he could

    NC might have won or he might have finished 20 lengths behind who knows?
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    Absolutely nothing to back up? Tanlic are you aware you're talking about the Stayers winner who was ahead of Supasundae even on this year reappearance when NC underperformed by a stone? NC would've crushed them yesterday.

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    It’s always daft to suggest ‘would have’ certainties, about horses who have fallen in a race (seen this before with your nonsense about Don Cossack in the 2015 KG) - espwcially when the fall happens so far from the finish. The error is merely compounded, when the form of the race they did win i.e. last season’s Stayers Hurdle, has not been upheld in the subsequent outings.
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    Well sometimes daft discussion lead to interesting ones, if one doesn't question where NC would've finished based on all known evidence then what are you doing with your time?
    Last edited by Aughex; 29th December 2017 at 12:50 PM.

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    Supasundae would be my selection for this race at the moment. It’s absolutely wide open but he has the Cheltenham form, looks certain to be aimed at the Stayers and will be suited by the spring ground he’ll encounter there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aughex View Post
    Well sometimes daft discussion lead to interesting ones, if one doesn't question where NC would've finished based on all known evidence then what are you doing with your time?
    There doesn’t seem any point in indulging such what-ifery, given the horse was lost and won’t race again.
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    Was more to make him justice after Tanlic claimed it can't be argued(the main point initially was about AJ) NC would've won. He was the champion stayer and even on his first run of the season where he ran a stone below best he was still able to beat Supasundae which AJ struggled to beat yesterday. The form is so tied and clear that only another sub-par effort from NC would've made him lose the race, or a fall which unfortunately happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    It’s always daft to suggest ‘would have’ certainties, about horses who have fallen in a race (seen this before with your nonsense about Don Cossack in the 2015 KG) - espwcially when the fall happens so far from the finish. The error is merely compounded, when the form of the race they did win i.e. last season’s Stayers Hurdle, has not been upheld in the subsequent outings.
    I think the Don Cossack fall was very much up for discussion and he always found loads in a finish.

    What Augie doesn't take into account is everything Mullins send out is half the odds and less than it should be so we have no idea what was expected from NC.............they are running like drains
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    There ya go another fookin 6/4 shot out of the 3.......Mullins is in trouble
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    won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!............what a plonker Danny Mullins is..............2nd last he looked clueless
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    And another winner...I'm enjoying this :0)..Lets' Dance for the stayers?

    Our New Year Holiday has started already..no more work till Tuesday....so I am pissed....but 109 pound up for the day :0)

    Must be drunk just put 9 quid on Danny boy to be in the first 4 on Fiddlers Bow Duh!!!
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    2nd Great jockey that Danny Mullins LOl
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