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    any place to check the sp of all the winners in one page?


    wondering how many odds on runners have been in the last 40 years

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    Depends on Industry odds or parimutuel Suny.
    Remember Deep Impact 1.10 on PM while odds against with bookies.
    Add in coupling on PM and sure that a few Sheikh Mohammed/ Godolphin runners could have been odds on a few years.
    otherwise very few odds on years in my memory since Nijinsky 1970.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunybay View Post
    any place to check the sp of all the winners in one page?


    wondering how many odds on runners have been in the last 40 years
    Troy, Generous, Montjeu....all have something in common!

    Sea the Stars was also odds-on.
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    Sea The Stars hardly had a quiet campaign either . I know suny thought he ran well below his best in the Arc but still was good enough to win .

    What is the ground like at Chantilly ? Highland Reel is the horse I would consider the biggest threat to Enable on good ground .

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    So what's the score with Cracksman then? Is he:

    A/ {As I suspect) simply not good enough?
    B/ As his Trainer suggests. needs more time?
    C/ Enable really is the outstanding filly Frankie would have us believe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardross View Post
    Sea The Stars hardly had a quiet campaign either . I know suny thought he ran well below his best in the Arc but still was good enough to win .
    He had a massive class advantage, ran maybe half a stone below his best. Enable hasn't that luxury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reet hard View Post
    So what's the score with Cracksman then? Is he:

    A/ {As I suspect) simply not good enough?
    B/ As his Trainer suggests. needs more time?
    C/ Enable really is the outstanding filly Frankie would have us believe?
    No.
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    She still has to go and do it.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

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    I reckon the only way they can beat her is if Frankie gives her a worse ride than Lester gave Park Top but I doubt if Frankie could be that bad even on his worst day.
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    I honestly think people are looking for something thats not there. If it had been good Ulysses might have got closer as he is clearly a quality animal but she's going to hump them provided she gets a decent sit in the race.
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    I should qualify this though by saying that I haven't lumped on her this time, though I will back her on the day but not to huge amounts.
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    Slightly surprised that Highland Reel and Cliffs of Moher don't go (less so about the latter)


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    Pointless running Highland Reel on soft ground.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

    This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.

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    Good place money nice colour of type class horse be silly not to have a go
    Formely Fist of Fury

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    It seems no British or Irish trained 3 year old filly has won an Arc yet.
    There is a first time for everything but the softening ground cannot be helping the cause.
    Ryan Moore opts for Winter according to Racing Post now; Order of St George surely a safer option all things considered.

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    Always thought he would plump for Winter, though clearly as you say OOSG is solid and you can easily see him finishing in front of her.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

    This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.

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    Galileo will reach new heights if he can sire an Arc winner out of a Wokingham winner, who herself was sired by a Kings Stand winner.

    He's made the wrong choice surely.
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    I can't see her as a factor. I'd take Seventh Heaven over her in a match bet.

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    Will be interesting to see when she hits the 2 pole.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

    This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.

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    Has a horse ever won the race at their first try over the trip?

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    Saumarez is the first one that springs to mind

    Would be interesting to know how many have tried.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

    This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.

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