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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanlic View Post

    Others like Frodo and Cue Card have a chance but Traffic Fluide.......Gary Moore is over facing him to the hilt for some reason.
    He's entered in the GN too

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    Total Recall gets Gold Cup green light by WPM.
    It would be some double for owner Lar Byrne after Hardy Eustace's Champion Hurdle exploits should he oblige.

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    If he's genuinely trying to win the Gold Cup he won't win the National.
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    Will someone explain to me how this market works. Total Recall 20/1 best price for the Gold Cup 14's in places.... I don't understand.
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    2018 Gold Cuppin'

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Will someone explain to me how this market works. Total Recall 20/1 best price for the Gold Cup 14's in places.... I don't understand.
    The 20s is with Winner & Boylesports. Don’t think they’re NRNB.
    Same for Sportingbet

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    Last edited by viking; 16th February 2018 at 11:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Will someone explain to me how this market works. Total Recall 20/1 best price for the Gold Cup 14's in places.... I don't understand.
    Apart from the NRNB concessions, etc, there's also the place offerings. The short prices will more likely be with guarantees and/or more places, the longer odds with the bastert bookies.

    But a 14/1-20/1 differential isn't much different from a 7/1-10/1 differential on a big Saturday handicap.
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    Is Ruby going to ride TR?
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Wasn't actually asking about the difference in the prices (not that i made that very clear) merely how a horse that has achieved what he has is so short in the betting ? It absolutley bemuses me. A horse that narrowly beat Whisper receiving a lot of weight is now shorter than Whisper was after his run in it and is half the price of a horse who's finished 1L behind Might Bite in a KG ?

    Utter madness !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Wasn't actually asking about the difference in the prices (not that i made that very clear) merely how a horse that has achieved what he has is so short in the betting ? It absolutley bemuses me. A horse that narrowly beat Whisper receiving a lot of weight is now shorter than Whisper was after his run in it and is half the price of a horse who's finished 1L behind Might Bite in a KG ?

    Utter madness !
    Might Bite was 'idling' in the KG. Went through the race much the superior animal.

    He 'may' need a pit stop in the Gold Cup mind.
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    He is the improver of the season, had a perfect trial in a hurdle which will sharpen him and boost his confidence without the rigours of a hard race.
    WPM had told owner at Christmas he was well handicapped off 156 so could be 160 plus now, has missed another tough race on heavy ground .
    Given the successes of Rekindling and Winter having left a retired trainer TR would be following that trend also.
    It would be the story of the 2018 Festival.
    (That owner Lar Byrne offered me a Festival ticket while waiting outside last year also blinkers my view of course!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankel View Post
    Might Bite was 'idling' in the KG. Went through the race much the superior animal.

    He 'may' need a pit stop in the Gold Cup mind.
    I don't buy this idling talk its strange how he only idles at the end of the race after pulling away from them on the front end for the rest of the straight.

    Whatever way you look at it winning a handicap by a neck off 147 does certainly not justify such a short price for a Gold Cup.
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    Maybe PN should forget SDR and run Black Corton in the GC...horse doesn't know how to lose
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    RSA is a decent prize. No need to be greedy - unlike me.

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    Guess the dook is Cheltenham bound now
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Cue Card might well have won that if he'd been ridden with more restraint. That early pace was ridiculous.
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    The idea I think was to test stamina - Cue Card ran Frodon and Top Notch into the dust I suspect that Waiting Patiently is just one hell of a horse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    Cue Card might well have won that if he'd been ridden with more restraint. That early pace was ridiculous.
    Certainly looked that way. Did amazing to get that close and giving 7lb to winner.
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    Great run by the old boy but the winner has won easy.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

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    Waiting Patiently is clearly very good but that race fell into his lap.
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    It was a Grade 1 they were at level weights.

    I wonder if they will skip the GC and go for the Ryanair with Cue Card.
    Last edited by Ardross; 17th February 2018 at 5:10 PM.

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