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    Good ride from the jockey, I thought. Clearly judged the pace really well up the middle, being prominent then leaving those around him for dead. I just wonder if they went too fast down the near side.

    The far side never looked in it. Might impact upon Hunt Cup deliberations.
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    I console myself with my ew bit but Spirit of Valor was an absurd price and until the last 50 yards I was jumping up and down . Dream Castle doesn't stay .

    I am amazed Jersey isn't a Group 2 . Look at the quality of the field .

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    If this HLAF goes tits up in the QM some of the others are huge prices. I've taken an interest to tiny stakes in a couple of the longest shots inc the French filly and Spencer's.
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    Tough boot Highland Reel.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

    This perfect mix of poetry and destruction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marble View Post
    Are you still keen on Afaak in the Britannia, Fonz?

    My own fancy Naval Warfare now withdrawn.

    A horse that beat Naval Warfare last season, so therefore must be good imho, (Maths Prize), is due to run.

    Just to recap my logic...

    Naval Warfare beat the massive recent Tim Easterby improver, Golden Apollo, last season, so if Math's Prize has beaten Naval Warfare, she could be very well-handicapped.

    Hence I've got it between Afaak and Maths Prize.

    There'll be little surprise if Slim comes up trumps with Son Of The Stars though.
    Changed my mind, Afaak it is for me.

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    I've been a critic of Jamie Spencer in the past but Jesus that was a decent ride on the American horse in the last.

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    Can't see Simply Verse being out of the first 3 and is worth a sizable EW bet.

    As for the rest of the day you'd have to have a death wish for your cash to be backing in those races

    Def a day for small bets and sit back and enjoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyB View Post
    I've been a critic of Jamie Spencer in the past but Jesus that was a decent ride on the American horse in the last.
    Agreed!!!!! Used to be I wouldn't back him for fear he'd mess up but now I feel confident when backing him. Been riding brilliantly.
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    Yes but look at his reaction after the line, he knew he came close to c***ing that up.

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    Really? I thought he rode a real good race...He tucked in behind Ryan watching his every move the when Ryan which isn't a bad idea considering they though AOB's was a good thing.

    Ryan went one side of the horse ahead Jamie went the other side (The right side IMO)

    Jamie's took a few strides longer to get going than the fav but that's down to the horse not the jockey.

    Once the horse picked up the result was never in doubt and he's won by a length and a quarter going away

    Maybe he was trying to get an Oscar :0)
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    It was a cracking ride. Simple as.
    All comers, all grounds, all beaten!

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    Damn site better ride than the one Usherette got.
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    A couple of layers have lengthened The Tin Man to 14s for the Diamond Jubilee presumably on the back of the perceived draw bias yesterday. He is drawn 3 and today's results suggests that draw is not bad at all.

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    Royal Ascot 2017

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    Anyone up for a Fantasy Stable challenge?

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    Just killing time while patiently waiting for Mrs O to get herself sorted for going out...

    About the Commonwealth Cup:

    I had a look at the result to see what kind of figures we were looking at for the principals and recalled Matt Chapman opining that the handicapper couldn't put them up since they'd run close to their respective relative ORs.

    He's got a point although I don't imagine the handicapper will take the same view.

    It would be interesting to know what kind of figure he had in mind for the American horse who finished fourth and the fifth was rated just 100. Caravaggio, OR 119, gave the latter a 19lbs beating. Blue Point, OR 116, gave him a 15lbs beating.

    Interesting.

    To me anyway!
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    That fifth horse, Mr Scarlet, was exactly the same distance behind the winner as he was at Naas. Would be a nice type for the Bunbury Cup.

    Sectionals apparently indicate Harry went too fast early on. That and the uphill finish suggests he will be better on a flatter track and maybe over 5f.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Orchid View Post
    Just killing time while patiently waiting for Mrs O to get herself sorted for going out...

    About the Commonwealth Cup:

    I had a look at the result to see what kind of figures we were looking at for the principals and recalled Matt Chapman opining that the handicapper couldn't put them up since they'd run close to their respective relative ORs.

    He's got a point although I don't imagine the handicapper will take the same view.

    It would be interesting to know what kind of figure he had in mind for the American horse who finished fourth and the fifth was rated just 100. Caravaggio, OR 119, gave the latter a 19lbs beating. Blue Point, OR 116, gave him a 15lbs beating.

    Interesting.

    To me anyway!
    The handicapper has left Harry Angel and Blue Point alone, which is interesting in itself.

    My time ratings point to the race being nothing special on the bare result but I do believe the front three are all better than the bare form as my limited reading of the sectionals leads me to conclude they went faster than Simon Rowlands is implying.

    I've upgraded the race by 3lbs but suspect the first three are better again. I also think Caravaggio would be a better miler than Churchill but everything points to Barney Roy being potentially a wee bit special.

    I think the King's Stand form is moderate and that Marsha was well below her best.
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    It wouldn't really be saying much to rate it the best this century. It's maybe the best this century on my figures too (would need to check) but it's moderate compared with the best of the 6f best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marble View Post
    Danzeno - A value price in the Anti-Post betting for The Wokingham.

    He was third at Ascot on Champions Day back in 2015, in a valuable 350K sprint.
    Looks as though the handicapper has reacted favourably, dropping him half a stone in the weights, for a couple of poor runs towards the end of last season, and his seasonal pipe-opener over the wrong distance of seven furlongs last month. The switch from Group races, to prestigious handicap, with the simultaneous drop in the weights, is drawing me towards him.

    Wokingham Handicap - Danzeno 33/1 Each Way. Ladbrokes & Hills.

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