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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    These were the days pre Ricci, GIGI and Potts
    Who have only won 2 Arkle's and only 1 QM (none for GIGI in either) between them......but admit; they did look poor renewals.
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    Reasonably impressive from Death Duty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    Reasonably impressive from Death Duty.
    Not necessarily a natural but, apart from a couple, tidy and economical in the main. Once he'd gathered himself after fluffing the last he seemed to swat off Ruby's club-handed attempt at a mugging very comfortably.

    RSA we presume.

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    I'd be a little bit concerned about Death Duty acting at Cheltenham, to be honest. He never seemed happy at any stage in the Neptune, and he seems to have a real dependency on genuinely Soft ground, to show his best form - and he doesn't seem likely to get that at Cheltenham in March.

    The Irish Nash is worth an absolute bundle these days, and can self-evidently be won with a decent novice. I wonder if they'd maybe think about Fairyhouse as his target, and not bother with the Festival at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    I'd be a little bit concerned about Death Duty acting at Cheltenham, to be honest. He never seemed happy at any stage in the Neptune, and he seems to have a real dependency on genuinely Soft ground, to show his best form - and he doesn't seem likely to get that at Cheltenham in March.

    The Irish Nash is worth an absolute bundle these days, and can self-evidently be won with a decent novice. I wonder if they'd maybe think about Fairyhouse as his target, and not bother with the Festival at all.
    Bartlett?

    Elliott has attributed his poor showing to lack of 'rightness' rather than ground or track and said he'd gone home unwell.

    You may well be right of course.

    Be interesting where he places him next....

    Update: just read Elliott saying 2m4f optimum trip and possibly heading for the Drinmore.
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    Carries his head too low for my taste. Interesting how early Gordon is getting some of his festival horses out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivantheterrible View Post
    Bartlett?
    My bad....it was indeed the Bartlett.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    My bad....it was indeed the Bartlett.
    Tad ironic GE is now favouring the intermediate trip when Russell was virtually pleading with him to run him in the Neptune and got put back in his box at a couple of the preview nights with the 'I train 'em, you ride 'em' line.

    And then runs him today over nearly 3 miles commenting that he won never needing to get out of second gear.

    Dunno...
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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
    Carries his head too low for my taste. Interesting how early Gordon is getting some of his festival horses out.
    What did you make of Roaring Bull?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivantheterrible View Post
    What did you make of Roaring Bull?
    Won like a 2/7 shot should. Nothing to dislike about it but I'm still puzzled about the early start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    Reasonably impressive from Death Duty.
    Not a bad start and much to work on.

    He looks to have a kick of speed but I hope that he is not similar to The Tullow Tank in that he looks to have gears but ultimately it didn't ever translate to fencing
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Mega Fortune out in a hurdle at Limerick tomorrow.
    "Beat the price and lose. It's what we do".

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    Gigi will have about 12 in Irish Nash so DD could well be one. If Drinmore is his target they prob think he retains plenty of ability.

    not sure how strong their novice crop is this term
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Finian's Oscar has an entry in the 2m4f novice chase at Chepstow on Saturday.

    Edit: He is not entered in the 2m7f novice chase on the Sunday. Make of that what you will.
    Last edited by Grasshopper; 9th October 2017 at 6:12 PM.
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    Give him a nice start and get him ready for feltham
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Give him a nice start and get him ready for feltham
    Really granger?? Do you see FO being campaigned over 3m this season?

    I had thought he'd be routed towards the Arkle myself.

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    Madness not to be running over staying trips, I reckon, hezz. He’d get mugged for a turn-of-foot in an Arkle.
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    Yeah, i'd have him down as a JLT horse Grassy, but figured Potts would want to go Arkle, from a prestige point of view.
    I'd have thought they'd be reluctant to go the RSA route, for fear of bottoming him too soon.

    But I suppose Cheltenham isn't the be all and end all. As Granger points out, the Feltham would be a big target in its own right.

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    Tizzard (and Potts, to be fair) are generally pretty-fearless when it comes to how they campaign their horses, hezz. I don't think they would be spooked about "bottoming" Finian's Oscar in the RSA......and the race doesn't really deserve that type of reputation anyway (imo).

    FO is a winning 3m pointer who is bred to stay, and if it's prestige they're after, the RSA Chase is probably a more alluring event, than the JLT. All will be revealed, no doubt!
    Last edited by Grasshopper; 11th October 2017 at 10:22 AM.
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    Agreed the RSA reputation for bottoming horses isn't deserved. Think it was Henrietta Knight who first started that one. Several winners have gone on to better things. Lord Windermere, Bobs Worth, Albertas Run, Looks like Trouble just a few that spring to mind. There are a few of course who never went on but not convinced that's the fault of the race


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