Thanks for the detailed reply, Paul. To put your figures in context, some trainers in England were already charging £20,000 ten years ago, so I think it's fair to say Peter Fahey is not overcharging you.Originally Posted by pdleech
Presumably what Colm Murphy meant when mentioning his accountancy background is that a lot of trainers only look at running costs and don't take account of the full amount of capital sunk in their land, stables and other assets when assessing their operations.
Last edited by Grey; 26th September 2016 at 10:59 PM.
Agreed Grey (and if I implied I thought Peter was overcharging then that was most certainly not my intention)
To put costs in the UK & Ireland into perspective you can have a horse in training with somebody I consider to be a top trainer with top facilities in Central Europe, who also has regular winners (including in top handicaps) in France for 16 Euro's per day, costs are about 250 Euro's per run (travel etc.) per run in France.
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Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
I believe Black Zambezi at Gowan Park today is his last runner, one of Oran,s as well. It was a pleasure having a few shares in horses with him, always a gentleman and I wish him all the best in the future.
I agree Brian. Oran (Cantoris), is one of life's gentlemen.
Its fitting that Black Zambezi is Colm's final runner, with Oran's links back to the heady Brave Inca days who he owned with his family.
By the way has anybody seen the elusive bugger recently? And has he said where Presenting Beara and Black Zambezi are going?
Last edited by Maruco; 1st October 2016 at 9:51 AM.
I heard from Oran earlier this year. He got engaged and has less time to be posting these days.
Unsure where the horses will end up.
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
Colm has announced that he's taking his licence out again and will resume training. One of the good guys for sure and it'll be good to see him back.
Brilliant. I think he is an exceptional trainer
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
He certainly knows when he's got a good one, and more importantly trains and targets them perfectly.
He looked a bit of a fish out of water in his HRI role so it is good to see him have a go again.
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Agreed. He looked a little burnt out when he stepped down, so hopefully he will relax, enjoy and be successful in his second movement.
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This good news is the first visible consequence of Gigginstown departing the stage.
I was thinking along those lines too Art given the timelines
I'm also guessing that Colm has come into some new finance or maybe has managed to secure a new owner or two with some money to spend
The landscape of training horses will change a good bit in the coming few years so if he is to make a go of it, now is probably the time
No doubting his talent, he probably just needs to embrace the publicity side of training that bit more
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
Yes P J, the timing of the announcement and the statement that there's no rush about it are surely an indication that he sees Giggi's phased departure as his opportunity to get going again.
It will be hard for him to do the media and entertaining owners thing when it's not in his nature.
He should outsource all that to our own Eddie - right man for the job
Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done
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