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    Douvan

    I would have got ripped into anyone who said there was a horse who would turn out to be as good as Sprinter Sacre just round the corner.

    However hand on my heart, absolutely everything points to Douvan being as good as Sprinter Sacre at the Arkle stages of their careers.

    Sprinter Sacre was even more impressive in his Arkle win than he was in his QMCC win.

    The way he simply sauntered away from the others from 4 out and the time he took to cover from there to the winning line made him look unbeatable which he turned out to be until his illness.

    I was so impressed by Douvan I thought I'd run a check and see how long he took to cover the same distance.

    2012 GOING: GOOD (Good to soft in places; watered; 7.3);

    2016 GOING: GOOD TO SOFT (Soft in places; 7.0)

    The advantage being slightly in Sprinter Sacre's favour

    Overall time Sprinter Sacre 3.58.1 Douvan 3.48.6= Douvan

    Douvan just under a second faster

    From the 4th last

    Sprint Dou
    0.72 0.67
    0.29 0.34
    0.08 0.08
    0.17 0.16


    1.26 1.25




    The contrast in times between the 4th last and 3rd last and the 3rd last and 2nd last
    prove both horses have one helluva turn of foot and there may not be as much between them as one might think.

    Personally if Douvan stays sound I reckon he he could outdo Sprinter Sacre and break the 200 Timeform barrier.
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    Difficult to fault a horse with a very good record, in good hands and with phisical scope

    what he has shown so far in the course is nothing special, he is better than Sizing John and does things in style,
    yesterday posted a career best performance in my figures , 162p

    I dont think he is as good hurdler or novice chaser as was Un Des Sceuax.

    About comparations with Sprinter Sacre, I rate Sprinter a stone higher as a novice, other league.


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    Fair comment and to each his own but I am willing to stand up and be shot at if I am wrong..

    I don't think as a novice there's 1 lb between hin and SS and if it came to a fight Douvan would have won

    BTW if you rate Sprinter Sacre (Arkle) a stone higher then you rate Douvan 155

    I was referring to Douvan and Sprinter Sacre the Arkle winners what are you referring to?
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    Gold cup or qm Tanlic?
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    I honestly don't know granger but if you forced my arm I'd say Gold Cup.

    He looks and moves like a high class 3 mile chaser
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    If UDS wins today that could see them step up Douvan ..only problem is SS should beat UDS who is damn ordinary
    Formely Fist of Fury

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    Here is his full brother


    Last edited by granger; 14th June 2018 at 2:44 PM.
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Looks leggy in those shots.
    Ah! but a man's reach should exceed his grasp......

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    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Looks tall, or that's a very short lady behind him! Very cute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Here is his full brother



    And now He Is for sale in the morning all grown up

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    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Sells for 140k
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Douvan out in the Clonmel Oil today

    Lovely looking race

    Wonder has he been hard trained like they did with Faugheen a few years back and may blow us away with a performance today before the fear of bouncing next time out or is it the slow approach with a plan to somehow get him to March
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    was backed like they had him ready for it and a pretty easy win all in all. couple of sketchy jumps though.

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    Bar 2 mistakes he was brilliant. Can we dream?

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    Maybe this forces Tanlic to return to posting

    Monalee is pig
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Quote Originally Posted by granger View Post
    Maybe this forces Tanlic to return to posting

    Monalee is pig
    I wondered who was Monalees biggest fan. Hearing shouts of him for the Gold Cup on here.

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    Willie:
    "Paul thought he idled in front but was very happy getting off him, I was very happy and visually what I saw I liked. It didn't look that he needed to go up in trip, I would have thought to come back in trip.
    "To me he looks to have a lot of the speed that he had before.
    "I imagine Christmas will be fine (for his next run) and I'm happy to have him here today and to finish well and we'll have to see how he comes out of the race over the next few days.
    "Chacun Pour Soi has to run yet and I'm not making any plans but am delighted he put in that performance today. I wouldn't be looking for three miles after that performance and what he showed me today was he is more at home at a shorter trip."
    The older I get the better I was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double J View Post
    I wondered who was Monalees biggest fan. Hearing shouts of him for the Gold Cup on here.
    Tanlic is Douvan's biggest fan

    Probably was me who tipped Monalee as the second coming on here before
    Some people say he’s the best since Arkle and that’s certainly true when you look at what he’s done

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    Just watched the replay, and while he was - inevitably - rusty at a few, he left little doubt he was far too good for this modest opposition.
    Class will out; despite all his setbacks.

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